Can you say "skew"? Unequal wire length = skew. Regards Mike peter zhu wrote: > Mike: > > I think the setup and hold time is not a problem in shortest data bus. Assume > that the length of data bus is ZERO, so no any data bus delay, the timing > will be just the timing in SDRAM or SDRAM controller datasheet!!! It's > perfect! > So I think the shorter, the better. > Can anybody explain it? > > Thanks in advanced. > > Peter > > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Mike Brown" <bmgman@xxxxxxxxxx> > To: <peter.zhu@xxxxxxxxxx> > Cc: <si-list@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> > Sent: Saturday, November 27, 2004 12:49 PM > Subject: [SI-LIST] Re: SDRAM timing > > > >>Peter, >>You are half right. Long path (setup) timing is determined by the longest >>data bus. You fail to consider the short path (hold) timing, and you will >>get a really nasty surprise some time after the design is released to the >>customer by doing so. >> >>Mike >> >>peter zhu wrote: >> >> >>>Hi, all: >>> >>>I oftem see designer reel the PCB trace for equivalent length in SDRAM data >>>bus. I am very puzzled about it all the time I think, for SDRAM data bus, >>>there is on need for equivalent trace length in SDRAM data bus. The timing >>>is determined by the longest data bus. For other SDRAM data bus, the short, >>>the better, and no need for equivalent. Do you think so? >>> >>>Also where can I find some detailed guide for SDRAM and DDR tracing? >>> >>>Thanks in advanced >>> >>>Peter >>> >>>------------------------------------------------------------------ >>>To unsubscribe from si-list: >>>si-list-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxx with 'unsubscribe' in the Subject field >>> >>>or to administer your membership from a web page, go to: >>>//www.freelists.org/webpage/si-list >>> >>>For help: >>>si-list-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxx with 'help' in the Subject field >>> >>>List FAQ wiki page is located at: >>> http://si-list.org/wiki/wiki.pl?Si-List_FAQ >>> >>>List technical documents are available at: >>> http://www.si-list.org >>> >>>List archives are viewable at: >>>//www.freelists.org/archives/si-list >>>or at our remote archives: >>>http://groups.yahoo.com/group/si-list/messages >>>Old (prior to June 6, 2001) list archives are viewable at: >>> http://www.qsl.net/wb6tpu >>> >>> >>> >> >> >>------------------------------------------------------------------ >>To unsubscribe from si-list: >>si-list-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxx with 'unsubscribe' in the Subject field >> >>or to administer your membership from a web page, go to: >>//www.freelists.org/webpage/si-list >> >>For help: >>si-list-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxx with 'help' in the Subject field >> >>List FAQ wiki page is located at: >> http://si-list.org/wiki/wiki.pl?Si-List_FAQ >> >>List technical documents are available at: >> http://www.si-list.org >> >>List archives are viewable at: >>//www.freelists.org/archives/si-list >>or at our remote archives: >>http://groups.yahoo.com/group/si-list/messages >>Old (prior to June 6, 2001) list archives are viewable at: >> http://www.qsl.net/wb6tpu >> ------------------------------------------------------------------ To unsubscribe from si-list: si-list-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxx with 'unsubscribe' in the Subject field or to administer your membership from a web page, go to: //www.freelists.org/webpage/si-list For help: si-list-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxx with 'help' in the Subject field List FAQ wiki page is located at: http://si-list.org/wiki/wiki.pl?Si-List_FAQ List technical documents are available at: http://www.si-list.org List archives are viewable at: //www.freelists.org/archives/si-list or at our remote archives: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/si-list/messages Old (prior to June 6, 2001) list archives are viewable at: http://www.qsl.net/wb6tpu