Andreas, I've worked on a bunch of SAS/SATA disk array projects, but I can't remember off the top of my head whether it is supported or not, but you might want to contact your local LSI resource or find a couple of their datasheets. Contrary to Steve's comment, in many large data storage products or rackmount systems and blade servers uisng sas/sata drives never use any cables but use hot swap trays that connect directly into a backplane, riser cards or custom flex assemblies. Routing of course can always be a challenge so, it seems logical that pin sense swapping may be an option. However, that is only usefully if you have direct control of the controller as I don't believe it would be an autosense capability. Disk side is not configurable. Marc ---------------------------------------- From: "Lenkisch, Andreas" <Andreas.Lenkisch@xxxxxxxxxxx> Sent: Friday, January 29, 2010 4:14 AM To: "si-list@xxxxxxxxxxxxx" <si-list@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> Subject: [SI-LIST] SATA intra pair flipping does anyone know if state of the art SAT controller can flip +/- pins of the RX pair? (if +/- flipped erroneously along the path) thanks in advance Andreas -----Original Message----- From: si-list-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:si-list-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of Rama Mohan Reddy Boreddy Sent: Freitag, 29. Januar 2010 05:12 To: si-list@xxxxxxxxxxxxx Subject: [SI-LIST] Silver ink usage in High Speed Flex Designs Hi Experts, In one of our earlier projects, we have used High Speed Flex PCBs. The stackup of the 3 layer Flex is like this Solder Mask Silver Ink FR4 Layer 1 ( HDMI, SATA and USB) FR4 GND FR4 Layer2 (HDMI, SATA ) FR4 Silver Ink Solder mask I haven't included adhesive for the clarity. Please share your thoughts a) Does the Silver ink really required? Silver ink used to provide shielding for top and bottom signal layer. But when i checked the appliation notes, Silver Ink doesn't provide proper shielding at speed more than 1 GHz. Rama ------------------------------------------------------------------ To unsubscribe from si-list: si-list-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxx with 'unsubscribe' in the Subject field or to administer your membership from a web page, go to: //www.freelists.org/webpage/si-list For help: si-list-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxx with 'help' in the Subject field List technical documents are available at: http://www.si-list.net List archives are viewable at: //www.freelists.org/archives/si-list Old (prior to June 6, 2001) list archives are viewable at: http://www.qsl.net/wb6tpu Schroff GmbH Langenalber Str. 96-100 D-75334 Straubenhardt Amtsgericht Mannheim, HRB 503549 Gesch?ftsf?hrer: Steven S. Cotariu, Walter Kritikos, Daniel Stirpe Important Notice The information contained in this message is confidential and is intended for the addressee only. The unauthorised use, disclosure, copying or alteration of this message is prohibited and may be unlawful. If you received this message in error or there are any problems please notify the originator immediately and contact postmaster@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx This mail and any attachments have been scanned for viruses prior to leaving Pentair's network. Pentair will not be liable for direct, special, indirect or consequential damages arising from alteration of the contents of this message by a third party or as a result of any virus being passed on. All personal views stated in this message are my own and may not represent the position of, nor is this message binding upon, Pentair Inc. or any of its subsidiaries. ------------------------------------------------------------------ To unsubscribe from si-list: si-list-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxx with 'unsubscribe' in the Subject field or to administer your membership from a web page, go to: //www.freelists.org/webpage/si-list For help: si-list-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxx with 'help' in the Subject field List technical documents are available at: http://www.si-list.net List archives are viewable at: //www.freelists.org/archives/si-list Old (prior to June 6, 2001) list archives are viewable at: http://www.qsl.net/wb6tpu ------------------------------------------------------------------ To unsubscribe from si-list: si-list-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxx with 'unsubscribe' in the Subject field or to administer your membership from a web page, go to: //www.freelists.org/webpage/si-list For help: si-list-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxx with 'help' in the Subject field List technical documents are available at: http://www.si-list.net List archives are viewable at: //www.freelists.org/archives/si-list Old (prior to June 6, 2001) list archives are viewable at: http://www.qsl.net/wb6tpu