[SI-LIST] Re: Routing and diff via pairs

  • From: Scott McMorrow <scott@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
  • To: Aubrey Sparkman <asparkman@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
  • Date: Tue, 15 Sep 2009 13:30:18 -0400

Aubrey

It all depends on where the grounds are, now doesn't it.

call me

Scott

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Aubrey Sparkman wrote:
> All,
> I had in interesting idea proposed to be my our layout guy -- he said the
> routing would go faster if he could place transition vias on 50 mil centers.
> Our board is 110 mils thick, 20 layers, 2 microstrip, 6 internal stripline
> routing layers.
> I'm interested in your thoughts on comparing 2 cases -- Scenario B where the
> diff pair transition vias are on a 50 mil grid and Scenario C where the via
> pairs are on 30 mil centers with 90 mils center to center between two
> different pairs.  In both cases, 150 mils center to center of outer vias.
>
> Text graphic attempt to show via locations:
>                       p     n      p      n 
> Scenario B:    O     O     O     O
>
>                 p   n          p    n
> Scenario C:    O   O         O   O
>
> The diff pairs involved are PCIe Gen2 and the 100MHz PCIe Ref Clks.
>
> In Scenario B, the diff pairs on layer Y route between the P and N vias
> transtioning from layer X to layer Z and there is always more than 40 mils
> between diff pairs.
>                 pn     pn      pn 
>                       p   | |  n  | |  p   | |  n
> Scenario B:    O  | |  O  | |  O  | |  O
>                           | |      | |       | |
>
> In Scenario C, the diff pairs on layer Y do not route between the P and N
> vias transtioning from layer X to layer Z but the gap between the diff pairs
> goes down to 10 mils to get between the via pairs.
>
>                           pn     pn      pn
>                           | |      | |       | |
>                              | |   | |   | |
>                       p   n  | |  | |  | | p    n
> Scenario C:    O   O  | | | | | |  O   O
>                               | |  | |  | |
>                              | |   | |   | |
>                           | |      | |       | |
>
> Comments?
>
> Aubrey Sparkman
> 512-461-6165
> Aubrey.K.Sparkman@xxxxxxxx
>
>
>
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