[SI-LIST] Re: Return loss

  • From: "Beal, Weston" <Weston_Beal@xxxxxxxxxx>
  • To: bala <balaseven@xxxxxxxxx>, "si-list@xxxxxxxxxxxxx" <si-list@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
  • Date: Fri, 2 Sep 2011 20:43:48 +0000

Bala,

The word loss in Return Loss often confuses people this way. Return loss is not 
a loss in the way we usually think of where an electrical signal is partially 
dissipated as heat. Return loss is really a measure of signal reflection caused 
by impedance discontinuity.

Whether a short channel or a long channel has less return loss depends on the 
lossless impedance of the interconnect. If the lossless impedance is already 
very near the normalizing impedance (usually 100 Ohms differential) then the 
addition of dielectric and resistive loss will increase the trace impedance and 
thereby increase the impedance discontinuity and the reflection. On the other 
hand, if the lossless impedance is lower than the normalizing impedance, the 
additional loss from the longer channel moves the impedance closer to the 
normalizing impedance, reduced the impedance difference, and reducing the 
reflection.

Regards,
Weston


-----Original Message-----
From: si-list-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:si-list-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On 
Behalf Of bala
Sent: Friday, September 02, 2011 11:40 AM
To: si-list@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
Subject: [SI-LIST] Return loss

Hi experts,
I have generated sdd11 waveform for 7.5gbits serdes channel..and i got good 
return loss results for longest length and bad results(-6db) for shortest 
length..my dk-3.9 df-.008.generally longest path should have high impedence 
discontinuties and bad return loss.am i right.
-bala


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