Depending on the nature of the memory channel, for=20 instance, number of dimms, total ranks and the=20 distribution thereof, the viability of the interface can be held together with for lack of a better phrase, spit and scotch tape. It is therefore fairly common=20 for constraints to be employed that enhance noise margin. Cross talk may be a contributing factor, but it is also common for DQS to be packaged separately such that a different termination scheme is desired. Not dis-similar to requirements stating that address and control should not be packaged with data. You may also want to consider a different rpack size as mfg cost may be increased due to the small size of the=20 package. Yes, I realize that there is a limited amount of space to implement the termination scheme for this=20 channel Best of luck. Best Regards, Michael Greim Platform Engineering Newisys, Inc. 512-634-0232 (V) 512-740-9097 (C) We will either find a way or make one -Hannibal Chance favors the prepared mind -Pasteur The time is gone, the email's over Thought I'd something more to say....... -----Original Message----- From: si-list-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:si-list-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx]On Behalf Of Anders Frederiksen Sent: Tuesday, November 15, 2005 8:47 AM To: si-list@xxxxxxxxxxxxx Subject: [SI-LIST] Resistor packs, SI issues? Hello All, I've encountered a constraint on the signal allocation in resistor = packs. The application is a DDR-I interface. Frankly I was quite puzzled to see = that Intel specifically prohibit routing DQS (strobes) and other (ie. data mask) = signal in one respack! If it weren't for the notes I'd never blink mixing <200MHz signals in = respacks. I'm using 0804 packs and fail to realize that cross talk could be a big = problem here? Of course the signals are raised from the reference plane and the = horizontal spacing between the signals is, say, double up for discrete resistors (or = separate packs). Is it the base material used in the packs that cause "issues"? Or am I = completely missing something??? I haven't been able to find any investigations = regarding use of respacks - so I'm very interested in hearing about your = experiences/opinions! Cheers, Anders ------------------------------------------------------------------ To unsubscribe from si-list: si-list-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxx with 'unsubscribe' in the Subject field or to administer your membership from a web page, go to: //www.freelists.org/webpage/si-list For help: si-list-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxx with 'help' in the Subject field List FAQ wiki page is located at: http://si-list.org/wiki/wiki.pl?Si-List_FAQ List technical documents are available at: http://www.si-list.org List archives are viewable at: =20 //www.freelists.org/archives/si-list or at our remote archives: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/si-list/messages Old (prior to June 6, 2001) list archives are viewable at: http://www.qsl.net/wb6tpu =20 ------------------------------------------------------------------ To unsubscribe from si-list: si-list-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxx with 'unsubscribe' in the Subject field or to administer your membership from a web page, go to: //www.freelists.org/webpage/si-list For help: si-list-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxx with 'help' in the Subject field List FAQ wiki page is located at: http://si-list.org/wiki/wiki.pl?Si-List_FAQ List technical documents are available at: http://www.si-list.org List archives are viewable at: //www.freelists.org/archives/si-list or at our remote archives: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/si-list/messages Old (prior to June 6, 2001) list archives are viewable at: http://www.qsl.net/wb6tpu