TEM wave solution is possible only for homogeneous isotropic waveguiding structure with at least two ideal conductors. In cases of lossy conductors or inhomogeneous dielectrics the dominant solutions for multi-conductor line is quasi-TEM or almost TEM. For a coaxial line with homogeneous dielectric and lossy conductors such solution has a small adjustment in the impedance per unit length and hence in the characteristic impedance and propagation constant that accounts for the conductor losses. As almost TEM wave propagate along the conductors (with transverse E and H), the conductors absorb the energy and there is longitudinal component of electric field associated with this absorption. Note, that a line segment in this case can be still described with the Telegrapher's equations without any loss of accuracy. For a coaxial line the loss component can be expressed analytically. A field solver has to be used to extract modal or per unit length parameters for multi-conductor lines in general. See more in F. Olyslager "Electromagnetic waveguides and transmission lines". Best regards, Yuriy Yuriy Shlepnev, Ph.D. President, Simberian Inc. 3030 S Torrey Pines Dr. Las Vegas, NV 89146, USA Office +1-702-876-2882 Cell +1-206-409-2368 Skype: shlepnev www.simberian.com -----Original Message----- From: si-list-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:si-list-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of Tesla Sent: Tuesday, April 10, 2012 7:05 AM To: si-list@xxxxxxxxxxxxx Subject: [SI-LIST] Resend:Why there is E field at the direction of wave propagating in coaxial line. Hi, Experts A very basic question. The text book say there is TEM mode only between some frequency(beform other modes are excited) in coaxial line. But if we look inside the inner conductor of coaxial line, there is E field at the direction of wave propagating that make the current flow? Can we still say this is TEM mode in coaxial line? Thanks. Regards ------------------------------------------------------------------ To unsubscribe from si-list: si-list-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxx with 'unsubscribe' in the Subject field or to administer your membership from a web page, go to: //www.freelists.org/webpage/si-list For help: si-list-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxx with 'help' in the Subject field List forum is accessible at: http://tech.groups.yahoo.com/group/si-list List archives are viewable at: //www.freelists.org/archives/si-list Old (prior to June 6, 2001) list archives are viewable at: http://www.qsl.net/wb6tpu ------------------------------------------------------------------ To unsubscribe from si-list: si-list-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxx with 'unsubscribe' in the Subject field or to administer your membership from a web page, go to: //www.freelists.org/webpage/si-list For help: si-list-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxx with 'help' in the Subject field List forum is accessible at: http://tech.groups.yahoo.com/group/si-list List archives are viewable at: //www.freelists.org/archives/si-list Old (prior to June 6, 2001) list archives are viewable at: http://www.qsl.net/wb6tpu