[SI-LIST] Re: Report Creators
- From: "Bill Reams" <breams@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
- To: <si-list@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
- Date: Wed, 11 Jun 2003 09:15:26 -0500
From my experience, best performance at the top. Lowest cost (for the =
software) at the bottom. Of course, the hidden cost of cheaper software =
is the extra time that one spends trying to make it work the way one =
needs it to.
1) Frame
2) PageMaker
3) MSWord
4) Printer/typewriter, light table, wax, knife, T-square, . . . . {ah, =
nostalgia ;-) }
-----Original Message-----
From: Jack Stone [mailto:mediwheel_js@xxxxxxxxx]
Sent: Wednesday, 11 June, 2003 01:10 AM
To: p2rich@xxxxxxxxxxxxx; rfeldman@xxxxxxxxxxx;
Michael_Poimboeuf@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx; si-list@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
Subject: [SI-LIST] Re: Report Creators
Rich,
I've had some success by using the page breaks, and planning my document
out before hand for the likes of table generation and scope capture =
pasting.
With this said it has worked out rather well, but very time consuming.
But with Frame I had all my templates ready made and the documents =
imported
data without spewing out temp files etc.... But in some groups Word is =
the
required doc tool.
jack ~
--- Rich Peyton <p2rich@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote:
> MS has not improved, that is why I get frustrated trying to create =3D
> documents
> with MS. It seems that I always have to check over entire document =
over
> every time I make additions or deletions because the change could =
effect =3D
> the
> layout of the entire document. I'll look into Framemaker-- but I =
would
> think there were more choices out there? =3D20
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> Rich P. =3D20
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> -----Original Message-----
> From: si-list-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx =
[mailto:si-list-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] =3D
> On
> Behalf Of Feldman, Richard
> Sent: Tuesday, June 10, 2003 1:53 PM
> To: Michael_Poimboeuf@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx; si-list@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
> Subject: [SI-LIST] Re: Report Creators
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> Too bad you have to use Word for collaborative editing. A couple of =
=3D3D =3D
> years
> ago, I was working with the INCITS T11 technical committee when we =
=3D3D =3D
> began
> work on a new Fibre Channel standard. It was decided to abandon =3D3D =
=3D
> Frame and
> use the ubiquitous MS Word this time. But after 2 or 3 =3D3D =
meetings, =3D
> the
> editors gave up in frustration, and went back to =3D3D Framemaker.
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> IMHO, a noteworthy weakness of Word, and strength of Framemaker, is =
with =3D
> =3D3D
> outline-style (hierarchical) numbering of chapters and sections in =
large =3D
> =3D3D
> documents or books. When you have to insert, remove, or shuffle =3D3D =
=3D
> sections
> from different sources, Frame seems always to get the numbering =3D3D =
=3D
> right,
> where Word invariably fouls it up beyond all recognition. Maybe =3D3D =
MS =3D
> has
> improved this recently, but I think it's rooted fundamentally in =3D3D =
the
> internal representation of your document's content, organization, =
=3D3D =3D
> and
> style. Frame endures because its creators "got it" from the outset.
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> Rich
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> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: Michael Poimboeuf [mailto:Michael_Poimboeuf@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx]
> > Sent: Monday, June 09, 2003 11:33 AM
> > To: si-list@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
> > Subject: [SI-LIST] Re: Report Creators
> >=3D3D20
> > I used Framemaker for ten years on SGI, Sun and MacOS.
> > It was my favorite technical writing package.
> > Unix was my favorite OS...
> > Ah well, time moves on...
> >=3D3D20
> > For the last four years or so, I've had to use
> > MS Word for all technical papers published=3D3D3D20
> > internally or externally. For instance, all of
> > the technical working groups and technical=3D3D3D20
> > journals I've published in require MS word for
> > collaborative editing.
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