[SI-LIST] 答复: Re: placement of decouplingcaps (again)

  • From: yu.yanfeng@xxxxxxxxxx
  • To: zhang_kun@xxxxxxxxxx
  • Date: Fri, 16 Apr 2004 13:44:20 +0800

One correction.

"The final is at the power ground pin of Die." should be "Power/Gnd grid 
on the Die", not power/ground pin.

Yanfeng Yu
Sr. Engineer
Nanjing R/D center, ZTE Corp.
63 Gongqingtuan Road, Nanjing 210012
Phone: 86-25-52872410
Mobile :13505159475
Mail: yu.yanfeng@xxxxxxxxxx




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Dear all

There are a lot of good discussion on the placement of decoupling 
capacitors. I agree with Raymond that the "rule of experts" is not always 
right. When and where will affect the result. For ADSL, the decoupling 
below 3MHz is critical. For SDRAM of 50MHz, the decoupling from 10MHz to 
400MHz is critical.

In power integrity, there are several stage.

VRM=>PCB=>Package=>Die.

The final is at the power ground pin of Die. At PCB level, it could not be 
completely solved. Whether the decoupling is good or bad should be decided 
by the impedance at the power ground pin of Die and the noise source of 
Die.

Therefore, I think it is of no use to discuss which is better or not 
without the details of the product.

My recommandation is that "Do simulation and check the impedance".

Best Regards

Zhangkun
2004.4.16

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