What¡¯s the question? In high speed or RF integrated circuit design, sometimes we need to use very long transmission lines in the chip, such as distributed amplifier. What we need to in the very first step is to model the transmission line. For example, we are planning to use CPS(coplanar stripe line) as the compensation element in the circuit. Issue? The difficulty was that the ground metal trace in the CPS line will be difficult to deal with. We have made experiment to extract the RLGC model of the CPS in two ways. First, we just made the ground trace as ideal ground. Second, we model the ground trace as lossy signal line whose two terminals was grounded. The simulation results showed that the loss of the metal ground will make the crosstalk and loss of transmissions greater. This lead to a interesting way to improve the performance of CPS in the chip. We just want to give a better grounding to the CPS¡¯s ground trace, we use stacked vias at the outside of ground trace to connect top metal to the substrate. Do you think that helpful? The answer may lead to the questioning where is the acceptable ground in RF chip? Thanks! Yours sincerely, --------------------------------- Do You Yahoo!? ÆôÓõçÓÊÕʺţ¬Áì»áÑÅ»¢Í¨[ÉíÁÙÆä¾³ÁĵçÓ°]µÄ¶¯¸Ð÷ÈÁ¦£¬»¹ÓÐÍøÂçÉãÏñÍ·+ÑÅ»¢Í¨ÊÕÒô»úµÈÄãÀ´Äà ------------------------------------------------------------------ To unsubscribe from si-list: si-list-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxx with 'unsubscribe' in the Subject field or to administer your membership from a web page, go to: //www.freelists.org/webpage/si-list For help: si-list-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxx with 'help' in the Subject field List archives are viewable at: //www.freelists.org/archives/si-list or at our remote archives: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/si-list/messages Old (prior to June 6, 2001) list archives are viewable at: http://www.qsl.net/wb6tpu