Shall we discuss the merits of the "modified" wrap vs. standard wrap? How about the "no-strip" tool that slit the insulation as it wrapped around the post, at least it was supposed to? Of course you didn't know which wires did slit and which didn't until you powered-up. Those were the days! Bill -----Original Message----- From: si-list-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:si-list-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of Tesla Sent: Tuesday, June 05, 2012 8:49 PM To: g.h.johnson@xxxxxxxxxxx Cc: si-list@xxxxxxxxxxxxx Subject: [SI-LIST] Re: REG AC Capacitive Loading it is a pity that i did not experience the years wire wrap gun. Telsa(An unemployed SI) At 2012-06-06 01:11:29,"Jerry Johnson" <g.h.johnson@xxxxxxxxxxx> wrote: >And it has me remembering wire mats of twisted pair six inches or more >deep and perhaps 4 feet by 5 feet on the back of mainframe computers of >the era. Thankfully timing was not as much of an issue as one might >think since cycle times were over 100ns! All of those twisted pair >interconnected modules with perhaps one or two gates or flip-flops. >Working a wire wrap gun through a mat like that and hitting the correct >posts was a skill. Probing with a scope probe was also much fun. > >Jerry (Retired SI guy) > > > >On 6/5/2012 8:56 AM, Ken Wyatt wrote: >> Oh Steve, you're too much! As one of the knights from that period, I still own a wire-wrap weapon from master Radio Shack, which I intend to display among my treasured historical artifacts. Your reminisces from that epoch brought back painful memories of troubleshooting mis-wires in a tangle of (transmission line) spaghetti. >> Cheers, Ken >> _______________________ >> Kenneth Wyatt >> Wyatt Technical Services LLC >> Woodland Park, CO >> Email Me! | Web Site | Blog >> Subscribe to Newsletter >> Connect with me on LinkedIn >> >> On Jun 5, 2012, at 1:16 AM, steve weir wrote: >> >>> Most MSI is from the Age of Augat, when armies of gnomes fought >>> using ancient weapons they called wire-wrap guns. During that >>> epoch, digital engineers heard rumors and stories of mythical beasts >>> called transmission lines that only the few such as Seymour of Chippewa dared tame. >>> >>> >>> Steve >>> >>> On 6/4/2012 11:01 PM, Tesla wrote: >>>> Hi, Steve >>>> >>>> What is "MSI from 1975"? >>>> Does it have some stories? >>>> >>>> Thanks. >>>> >>>> Tesla. >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> At 2012-06-02 21:42:46,"steve weir"<weirsi@xxxxxxxxxx> wrote: >>>>> 50pF for a single input sounds like someone cut and pasted a spec >>>>> from inside some prehistoric cave painting. Is the buffer made >>>>> with MSI from 1975? You should seriously question any values above about 8pF. >>>>> >>>>> Steve. >>>>> On 5/31/2012 8:59 PM, Vinothkumar D wrote: >>>>>> Hello Everyone, >>>>>> >>>>>> I have a problem in AC loading in which the Cout of FPGA<< Cin of a Bus controller. I have used a buffer between FPGA and Bus controller still I could not meet ac loading requirements. >>>>>> Eg: >>>>>> FPGA Cout = 5pF >>>>>> Buffer Cin = 5pF and Cout = 50pf Each Bus controller Cin = 50pF >>>>>> Total Bus controllers Cin = 150pf >>>>>> >>>>>> Now I have connected the ADD/DATA and control pins through Buffer which is driving three bus controllers, I am meeting the ac loading requirements. >>>>>> >>>>>> Will it create any timing issue . Please help me on this. >>>>>> >>>>>> Regards >>>>>> Vinothkumar.D >>>>>> E-mail ID : Vinothkumar.D@xxxxxxxxxx >>>>>> >>>>>> Larsen& Toubro Limited >>>>>> >>>>>> www.larsentoubro.com >>>>>> >>>>>> This Email may contain confidential or privileged information for the intended recipient (s). If you are not the intended recipient, please do not use or disseminate the information, notify the sender and delete it from your system. >>>>>> >>>>>> Earth Day. 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