Hello all, I have the following question regarding the usage of package models and the presence of Package parameters ( R_pkg, L_pkg and C_pkg). I understand that if there is no package model available for a particular IBIS Model but I have the per pin package parasitic information, I can use the [Package] parameter to define the min,max and typ R_pkg, L_pkg and C_pkg values by taking the min, max, typ values from the per pin parasitic info. and use the [Pin] keyword to define the individual pin's parasitic information. But, if I have a package model that includes a sparse matrix for Inductance, Capacitance and Resistance separately, I use the [Define Package Model] to copy the .pkg file into my IBIS and use [Package Model] keyword to call the package in my IBIS Model. The question here is the [Package] keyword is mandatory and I don't think I can just take the min, max and typ values from the sparse matrix to fill the R_pkg, L_pkg and C_pkg values. What can be done in this case. How do I get the [Package] parameters for a package model? I understand we don't have to define per pin parasitics in the [Pin] keyword. But I am worried about the values for R_pkg, L_pkg and C_pkg when using a package model for my IBIS file. I would also like to know if the package model developers can provide the R_pkg, L_pkg and C_pkg values to me. Thanks a lot in advance. -- Seshadri Venkataramanan Graduate Student MS - Electrical Engineering ( Mixed Signal Circuit Design) / Student Design Intern. Arizona State University/ NXP Semiconductors. ------------------------------------------------------------------ To unsubscribe from si-list: si-list-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxx with 'unsubscribe' in the Subject field or to administer your membership from a web page, go to: //www.freelists.org/webpage/si-list For help: si-list-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxx with 'help' in the Subject field List technical documents are available at: http://www.si-list.net List archives are viewable at: //www.freelists.org/archives/si-list or at our remote archives: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/si-list/messages Old (prior to June 6, 2001) list archives are viewable at: http://www.qsl.net/wb6tpu