... And I bet this transmitter is a current source, which is why the=0D=0A resistor is needed, but the receiver still has to be terminated. =0D=0A =0D=0A -----Original Message-----=0D=0A From: si-list-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:si-list-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx]=0D= =0A On Behalf Of steve weir=0D=0A Sent: Sunday, July 29, 2007 10:03 PM=0D=0A To: jasonleehan@xxxxxxxxx=0D=0A Cc: SI LIST=0D=0A Subject: [SI-LIST] Re: Question about Broadcom's PHY differential pairs=0D= =0A termination=0D=0A =0D=0A Han, the driver is source terminated w/ the termination resistors. They=0D= =0A need to be as close to the driver as possible.=0D=0A =0D=0A Steve.=0D=0A Han Li wrote:=0D=0A > Hi, experts,=0D=0A > I'am designing with Broadcom PHY BCM5461s, I have a question =0D=0A > about this phy's differential pairs termination.At Twisted pairs =0D=0A > interface side(interface between PHY and Transformer),ASIC's Datasheet=0D= =0A =0D=0A > and Application note says "place differential pair termination =0D=0A > resisters near PHY side as close as possible"=0D=0A > It seems clear that we put differential paris termination neart =0D= =0A > the end of receiver(Rx direction), this method is also recommended by =0D= =0A > Dr. Howard Johnson in his book"High-Speed Digital Design-a handbook of=0D= =0A black magic "=0D=0A > pp-244,=0D=0A > But why put termination also near driver side?(Tx direction) ,=0D=0A > Could any one provide a deeper explanation? 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