Dave, Rob, Steve, Thanks for your sharing and help. Your suggestions and answers are helpful. Have a nice day! Huang Chunxing HUAWEI TECHNOLOGIES CO.,LTD. Address: Huawei Industrial Base Bantian Longgang Shenzhen 518129, P.R.China Tel: +86 755 89651027 Fax: +86 755 89650600 E-mail: huangchunxing@xxxxxxxxxx www.huawei.com ----- Original Message ----- From: DAVID CUTHBERT To: robert_sleigh@xxxxxxxxxxx Cc: huangchunxing@xxxxxxxxxx ; si-list@xxxxxxxxxxxxx Sent: Monday, April 28, 2008 9:20 PM Subject: [SI-LIST] Re: Query on power noise sensitivity measurement problem When performing these measurements I manually adjust the power bus injected signal for each frequency. If you'd like to perform a single sweep an amplifier can be configured to maintain a constant amplitude into the power bus. Dave Cuthbert On Sun, Apr 27, 2008 at 10:42 PM, <robert_sleigh@xxxxxxxxxxx> wrote: > Greetings, > > Here's a link to a recent seminar which covers TX/RX PLL = > characterization. http://www.techonline.com/learning/webinar/206801021=20 > > This measurement technique would also allow measurement of the Jitter = > Spectrum (RJ/PJ RJ/SJ) while injecting "power noise on PLL power".=20 > > Best regards, > Rob Sleigh > Digital Test Division > Agilent Technologies, Inc. > > -----Original Message----- > From: si-list-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:si-list-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] = > On Behalf Of Huang chunxing > Sent: Saturday, April 26, 2008 2:02 AM > To: si-list@xxxxxxxxxxxxx > Subject: [SI-LIST] Query on power noise sensitivity measurement problem > > Content-type: text/plain; charset=3Dgb2312 > Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT > Hi experts, > > I am trying to find out whether it is possible to get the relationship = > between powernoise and output jitter by measurement. > To be convenient, I would like to call it Power Noise sensivity. =20 > > My initial thought is to inject a certain frequency power noise on PLL = > power, and then measure SJ at the frequency on TX output signal.=20 > But it is some difficult to be applied in practice due to PDN impedance = > variance. > Is there any craft method to avoid it? > > As to RX side, it is difficult to loop out clock recovered by CDR. > I was ever been told that as TX and RX share same PLL, or use same = > design PLL, so power sensitivity at RX is similar with power sensitivity = > at TX. If we measure power sensitivity at TX, then we can get one at RX. > Is that true, or could stand at most cases? > > I tried to find some documents for reference, but I failed. > I hope experts here who ever did similar work may give me some comments = > and suggestions. > Thanks in advance! =20 > > > Regards, > > Huang Chunxing > HUAWEI TECHNOLOGIES CO.,LTD. =20 > > > Address: Huawei Industrial Base > Bantian Longgang > Shenzhen 518129, P.R.China > Tel: +86 755 89651027 > Fax: +86 755 89650600 > E-mail: huangchunxing@xxxxxxxxxx > www.huawei.com > > > > -- Binary/unsupported file stripped by Ecartis -- > -- Type: image/jpeg > -- File: outlook_huawei_logo_en.jpg > > > ------------------------------------------------------------------ > To unsubscribe from si-list: > si-list-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxx with 'unsubscribe' in the Subject field > > or to administer your membership from a web page, go to: > //www.freelists.org/webpage/si-list > > For help: > si-list-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxx with 'help' in the Subject field > > > List technical documents are available at: > http://www.si-list.net > > List archives are viewable at: =20 > //www.freelists.org/archives/si-list > or at our remote archives: > http://groups.yahoo.com/group/si-list/messages > Old (prior to June 6, 2001) list archives are viewable at: > http://www.qsl.net/wb6tpu > =20 > > > > ------------------------------------------------------------------ > To unsubscribe from si-list: > si-list-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxx with 'unsubscribe' in the Subject field > > or to administer your membership from a web page, go to: > //www.freelists.org/webpage/si-list > > For help: > si-list-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxx with 'help' in the Subject field > > > List technical documents are available at: > http://www.si-list.net > > List archives are viewable at: > //www.freelists.org/archives/si-list > or at our remote archives: > http://groups.yahoo.com/group/si-list/messages > Old (prior to June 6, 2001) list archives are viewable at: > http://www.qsl.net/wb6tpu > > > ------------------------------------------------------------------ To unsubscribe from si-list: si-list-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxx with 'unsubscribe' in the Subject field or to administer your membership from a web page, go to: //www.freelists.org/webpage/si-list For help: si-list-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxx with 'help' in the Subject field List technical documents are available at: http://www.si-list.net List archives are viewable at: //www.freelists.org/archives/si-list or at our remote archives: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/si-list/messages Old (prior to June 6, 2001) list archives are viewable at: http://www.qsl.net/wb6tpu ------------------------------------------------------------------ To unsubscribe from si-list: si-list-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxx with 'unsubscribe' in the Subject field or to administer your membership from a web page, go to: //www.freelists.org/webpage/si-list For help: si-list-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxx with 'help' in the Subject field List technical documents are available at: http://www.si-list.net List archives are viewable at: //www.freelists.org/archives/si-list or at our remote archives: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/si-list/messages Old (prior to June 6, 2001) list archives are viewable at: http://www.qsl.net/wb6tpu