[SI-LIST] Re: Query on power noise sensitivity measurement problem

  • From: Huang chunxing <huangchunxing@xxxxxxxxxx>
  • To: DAVID CUTHBERT <telegrapher9@xxxxxxxxx>, robert_sleigh@xxxxxxxxxxx, steve weir <weirsi@xxxxxxxxxx>
  • Date: Wed, 30 Apr 2008 15:24:07 +0800

Dave, Rob, Steve,
Thanks for your sharing and help. 
Your suggestions and answers are helpful.


Have a nice day!
Huang Chunxing

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  ----- Original Message ----- 
  From: DAVID CUTHBERT 
  To: robert_sleigh@xxxxxxxxxxx 
  Cc: huangchunxing@xxxxxxxxxx ; si-list@xxxxxxxxxxxxx 
  Sent: Monday, April 28, 2008 9:20 PM
  Subject: [SI-LIST] Re: Query on power noise sensitivity measurement problem


  When performing these measurements I manually adjust the power bus injected
  signal for each frequency. If you'd like to perform a single sweep an
  amplifier can be configured to maintain a constant amplitude into the power
  bus.
      Dave Cuthbert


  On Sun, Apr 27, 2008 at 10:42 PM, <robert_sleigh@xxxxxxxxxxx> wrote:

  > Greetings,
  >
  > Here's a link to a recent seminar which covers TX/RX PLL =
  > characterization. http://www.techonline.com/learning/webinar/206801021=20
  >
  > This measurement technique would also allow measurement of the Jitter =
  > Spectrum (RJ/PJ RJ/SJ) while injecting "power noise on PLL power".=20
  >
  > Best regards,
  > Rob Sleigh
  > Digital Test Division
  > Agilent Technologies, Inc.
  >
  > -----Original Message-----
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  > On Behalf Of Huang chunxing
  > Sent: Saturday, April 26, 2008 2:02 AM
  > To: si-list@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
  > Subject: [SI-LIST] Query on power noise sensitivity measurement problem
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  > Hi experts,
  >
  > I am trying to find out whether it is possible to get the relationship =
  > between powernoise and output jitter by measurement.
  > To be convenient, I would like to call it Power Noise sensivity. =20
  >
  > My initial thought is to inject a certain frequency power noise on PLL =
  > power, and then measure SJ at the frequency on TX output signal.=20
  > But it is some difficult to be applied in practice due to PDN impedance =
  > variance.
  > Is there any craft method to avoid it?
  >
  > As to RX side, it is difficult to loop out clock recovered by CDR.
  > I was ever been told that as TX and RX share same PLL, or use same =
  > design PLL, so power sensitivity at RX is similar with power sensitivity =
  > at TX. If we measure power sensitivity at TX, then we can get one at RX.
  > Is that true, or could stand at most cases?
  >
  > I tried to find some documents for reference, but I failed.
  > I hope experts here who ever did similar work may give me some comments =
  > and suggestions.
  > Thanks in advance! =20
  >
  >
  > Regards,
  >
  > Huang Chunxing
  > HUAWEI TECHNOLOGIES CO.,LTD. =20
  >
  >
  > Address: Huawei Industrial Base
  > Bantian Longgang
  > Shenzhen 518129, P.R.China
  > Tel: +86 755 89651027
  > Fax: +86 755 89650600
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  > www.huawei.com
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