Mark, Check pages 79-87 of High-Speed Signal Propagation - Advance Black Magic, especially equation 2.65 on p. 87 for the distribution in the ground plane. -Bill William C. Wurst William C. Wurst 3 5 2004-09-03T11:07:00Z 2004-10-28T23:52:00Z 1 30 176 Advanced Electronic Concepts, LLC 1 1 205 11.6360 200 Clean Clean false false false M icrosoftInternetExplorer4 /* Style Definitions */ table.MsoNormalTable {mso-style-name:"Table Normal"; mso-tstyle-rowband-size:0; mso-tstyle-colband-size:0; mso-style-noshow:yes; mso-style-parent:""; mso-padding-alt:0in 5.4pt 0in 5.4pt; mso-para-margin:0in; mso-para-margin-bottom:.0001pt; mso-pagination:widow-orphan; font-size:10.0pt; font-family:"Times New Roman";mso-ansi-language:#0400; mso-fareast-language:#0400; mso-bidi-language:#0400;} -Bill billw@xxxxxxxxxxx[1] Advanced Electronic Concepts, LLC™ www.aec-lab.com[2] ============================== Mark Burford wrote: Hi guys, I am trying to model the proximity effect and ground plane return effects i.e. the way the current bunches on the sides of lines near eachother and near the ground. So far all I can find are tables from Dr Johnson's books for a given geometry. So I am using an constant with which to multiply the R value of RCLG by to account for the increased resistance. Does anyone know of a more accurate wayof capturing this effect other than using 2D or 3D field solvers? cheers Mark ------------------------------------------------------------------ To unsubscribe from si-list: si-list-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxx[3] with 'unsubscribe'in the Subject field or to administer your membership from a webpage, go to: //www.freelists.org/webpage/si-list[4] For help: si-list-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxx[5] with 'help' in the Subject field List FAQ wiki page is located at: http://si-list.org/wiki/wiki.pl?Si-List_FAQ[6] List technical documents are available at: http://www.si-list.org[7] List archivesare viewable at: //www.freelists.org/archives/si-list[8] or at our remote archives: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/si-list/messages[9] Old (prior to June 6, 2001) list archives are viewable at: http://www.qsl.net/wb6tpu[10] --- Links --- 1 mailto:billw@xxxxxxxxxxx 2 http://www.aec-lab.com/ 3 mailto:si-list-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxx 4 //www.freelists.org/webpage/si-list 5 mailto:si-list-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxx 6 http://si-list.org/wiki/wiki.pl?Si-List_FAQ 7 http://www.si-list.org 8 //www.freelists.org/archives/si-list 9 http://groups.yahoo.com/group/si-list/messages 10 http://www.qsl.net/wb6tpu ------------------------------------------------------------------ To unsubscribe from si-list: si-list-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxx with 'unsubscribe' in the Subject field or to administer your membership from a web page, go to: //www.freelists.org/webpage/si-list For help: si-list-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxx with 'help' in the Subject field List FAQ wiki page is located at: http://si-list.org/wiki/wiki.pl?Si-List_FAQ List technical documents are available at: http://www.si-list.org List archives are viewable at: //www.freelists.org/archives/si-list or at our remote archives: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/si-list/messages Old (prior to June 6, 2001) list archives are viewable at: http://www.qsl.net/wb6tpu