Hi Prasad, I am pleased to be able to tell you that LeCroy has drastically improved the calibration delays in our mid and high end line of real-time scopes introduced over the last year. I can't say the same about our Autoscale - it still takes longer than we would like. We have started to overhaul the Autoscale feature and expect to have an order of magnitude decrease in the time it takes when it is released in the latter half of this calendar year. For DDR, we acquire long records with many read and write bursts using a simple hardware trigger, and quickly scan through the data record in software identifying the read and write bursts. By doing the identification in software, we believe it can be more robust particularly when the signal quality is poor. Regards, Jim James J Mueller Engineering manager Serial Data Solutions Group LeCroy Corporation |------------> | From: | |------------> >--------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------| |prasad <hariprasad.palli@xxxxxxxxx> | >--------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------| |------------> | To: | |------------> >--------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------| |Eugene Ivanov <eugene.ivanov@xxxxxxx> | >--------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------| |------------> | Cc: | |------------> >--------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------| |praveen kumar <ypk705@xxxxxxxxx>, "si-list@xxxxxxxxxxxxx" <si-list@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> | >--------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------| |------------> | Date: | |------------> >--------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------| |04/17/2009 01:22 PM | >--------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------| |------------> | Subject: | |------------> >--------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------| |[SI-LIST] Re: Pros/Cons of Agilent vs Tek scope for DDR2/DDR3 characterization | >--------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------| |------------> | Sent by: | |------------> >--------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------| |si-list-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx | >--------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------| Hi.... good to hear this.... but personally, i have used Tek, Agilent, Lecroy scopes.... one thing i observed is Agilent is far superior in noise floor spec, and in usage model, Lecroy, try autoscaling the signal... what will happen is it takes long time to pop the signal up in window, and at the bottom it says, " Calibrating"... some times it takes very long time compared to Tek and Agilent. i m not sure what kind of trigger they use to separate the Read and Write cycle in DDR for validation. If anyone has some information please pass in...... Thanks, prasad 2009/4/17 Eugene Ivanov <eugene.ivanov@xxxxxxx> > My problem with Agilent scope is that it doesn't support a crossover > measurement of the dif signal as a standalone application, only as a part of > the compliance test. Another usefull feature Agilent missing is gating the > measurements by cursors. For instance, I'm looking at DQS Read immediately > followed by DQS Write and want to make a crossover measurements only on DQS > Write (or just first DQS Write transition) - the situation where On-die > termination turns-off on the controller and turns-on on the memory. I've > been told the work-around on Agilent is to zoom into the area of concern. > But it won't work with Infiniscan triggers > > From: praveen kumar [mailto:ypk705@xxxxxxxxx] > Sent: Thursday, April 16, 2009 11:39 PM > To: Eugene Ivanov > Cc: si-list@xxxxxxxxxxxxx > Subject: Re: [SI-LIST] Pros/Cons of Agilent vs Tek scope for DDR2/DDR3 > characterization > > Eugene > From the probing easiness for DDR, agilent makes life easier but the tek > has come out with a DDR analysis s/w and trimode probes which are worth > trying. Check it out.. > Regards > YPK > On Fri, Apr 17, 2009 at 9:37 AM, Eugene Ivanov <eugene.ivanov@xxxxxxx > <mailto:eugene.ivanov@xxxxxxx>> wrote: > Need to make a selection of which scope to buy for DDR2/3 i/f JEDEC > compliance testing on the memory controller(s). I personally like Tek scope > but it is more expensive and its DDR compliance test software doesn't > support all the required parameters. > Did anybody evaluate both scopes for this application and which one you > picked? 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