Hi, There has been a lot of talk about obtaining a good low-inductance, power system impedance on PCBs. I am curious as to whether anybody actually does production line testing of their loaded PCB's power system impedance (with the SMPS disconnected). That is, both the PCB planes, as well all of the correct value bypass capacitors loaded (with all other components installed as well). I've asked people how do they know that all bypass capacitors were installed on their PCBs, and how do they know that the loaded capacitors are the correct value? Most people have told me that they don't know. Unless a capacitor is installed on a coupon, and the coupon's power system impedance specially measured, no one checks it. I was thinking about this, in relation to some boards that I had designed. While the impedance/frequency area of interest would be between 1MHz and 500MHz (testing for a flat impedance line), I couldn't imagine a practical test at anything above 1MHz. However, a 1MHz test may still give an indication as whether things are basically correct. Someone suggested that you couldn't tell through an impedance measurement, whether a capacitor was missing from the board. They thought that this sort of test wouldn't be repetitive, and would be more trouble than its worth. Fair enough. My thought was a four terminal impedance measurement at 1MHz. The "impedance under test" is ground referenced (as one terminal of the power system's "impedance/capacitor" would be attached to the test system's ground), so a single ended ac current source would have to be used. The excitation voltage would have to be kept low in order not to switch on any logic IC's ESD diodes. I'm thinking of impedances around 30 milli-ohms and capacitances of 30nf. It has only been a curiosity in my mind, however I am wonder whether others have consider it too. Regards, Peter Baxter ------------------------------------------------------------------ To unsubscribe from si-list: si-list-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxx with 'unsubscribe' in the Subject field For help: si-list-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxx with 'help' in the Subject field List archives are viewable at: //www.freelists.org/archives/si-list or at our remote archives: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/si-list/messages Old (prior to June 6, 2001) list archives are viewable at: http://www.qsl.net/wb6tpu