[SI-LIST] Re: Problem with HFSS 9

  • From: "Mike Heimlich" <mike@xxxxxxxxxxx>
  • To: <kundanchand@xxxxxxxxx>, <si-list@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
  • Date: Sun, 16 Oct 2005 04:56:18 -0700

Chand:

I think it is more a matter of making sure that the bandwidth you are
truly interested in is all that you are asking for with the fast
frequency sweep.

I would do the fast frquency sweep, and then double check key
frequencies by running these key frequencies explicitly (i.e. no fast
frequency sweep).

Mike=20

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Sent: Saturday, October 15, 2005 6:14 PM
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Subject: [SI-LIST] Re: Problem with HFSS 9

Mike
Thanks for the info. For fast sweep, what should be chosen as the
solution frequency in the set up:=20
center frequency or
maximum frequency of the range.
Mike Heimlich <mike@xxxxxxxxxxx> wrote:
Chand:

So called "fast frequency sweeps" are approximation techniques which use
data from within the underlying computational method to "predict" the
response at other frequencies. So over the broader bandwidth simulation
it is doing more interpolation for your 200MHz BW of interest.

Also, if by "impedance" you have a significant I2R loss, you may not be
getting accurate results if you do not use enough volume meshing in the
metal.

You may want to try one of the 3D planar methods, like closed-boundary
method of moments (Sonnet or EMSight), which allows you to determine the
upper bound of the error by halving the mesh size....see anyone of the
papers by J. Rautio about this.

-----Original Message-----
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Sent: Saturday, October 15, 2005 1:44 PM
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Subject: [SI-LIST] Problem with HFSS 9

Hi everyone



I am trying to get impedance plots for a power bus board using HFSS 9. I
performed simulations on the same geometry using the following 2
frequency ranges:



1) start =3D 1 MHz, stop =3D 200 MHz, step =3D 1 MHz

2) start =3D 1 MHz, stop =3D 1 GHz, step =3D 1 MHz



But the impedance plots (1 MHz - 200 MHz) are different for both cases.=20



Can anyone let me know the reason for that. I am using "fast" frequency
sweep.



Thanks


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