> An other example of this is package size. I think larger, easier to > route ( in the package and on the board ) are a better trade off but > customers push on cost the forces us into smaller BGA substrates that > offer poorer signal quality and more PCB layers so the component cost, > not system cost, can be optimized. Good point. Do you think it will catch on if people repeat it often enough? How many designers currently ask about the number of layers needed to route all the balls of a chip? Or how many caps are needed to make it work? or ... Perhaps marketing depts should start looking at demo boards for their competitors chips to point out these things. (and, of course, push back on their designers if the competition is better) -- The suespammers.org mail server is located in California. So are all my other mailboxes. Please do not send unsolicited bulk e-mail or unsolicited commercial e-mail to my suespammers.org address or any of my other addresses. These are my opinions, not necessarily my employer's. I hate spam. ------------------------------------------------------------------ To unsubscribe from si-list: si-list-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxx with 'unsubscribe' in the Subject field or to administer your membership from a web page, go to: //www.freelists.org/webpage/si-list For help: si-list-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxx with 'help' in the Subject field List technical documents are available at: http://www.si-list.org List archives are viewable at: //www.freelists.org/archives/si-list or at our remote archives: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/si-list/messages Old (prior to June 6, 2001) list archives are viewable at: http://www.qsl.net/wb6tpu