Abe - The advanced micro processor is just a good example where we have power integrity issues with huge current transients and DC power loss. We could also have power integrity issues with a low power PLL circuit where the "filter" for the power supply has some high Q resonances. I did not mean to imply that high currents had to be involved with power integrity, but high currents are usually involved in the most challenging PI problems. The way I distinguish between PI and SI is that PI only involves power and ground nodes. SI always involves at least one signal node. You Usually have to have good PI before you can get good SI but good PI does not guarantee good SI. regards, Larry > Delivered-To: si-list@xxxxxxxxxxxxx > From: "Abe Riazi" <ariazi@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx> > To: "'si-list@xxxxxxxxxxxxx'" <si-list@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> > Subject: [SI-LIST] Re: Power Integrity (was: UltraCAD ESR and BypassCapacitor Caculator) > Date: Fri, 15 Aug 2003 15:27:01 -0700 > MIME-Version: 1.0 > X-WSS-ID: 132380B278301-01-01 > Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit > X-archive-position: 7950 > X-ecartis-version: Ecartis v1.0.0 > X-original-sender: ariazi@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx > X-list: si-list > > Larry Smith Wrote: > > > > > > > > Power Integrity involves delivering high current with huge transients. It is > > best understood and managed by the concept of target impedance in the > > frequency domain. > > > > > > > > Dear Larry: > > By the statement " Power Integrity involves delivering high current with > huge transients " are you > providing a general definition for the term " Power Integrity " or are you only relating to the > advanced microprocessor example discussed in that paragraph ? > > Thank you. > > Abe Riazi > ServerWorks > > ------------------------------------------------------------------ > To unsubscribe from si-list: > si-list-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxx with 'unsubscribe' in the Subject field > > or to administer your membership from a web page, go to: > //www.freelists.org/webpage/si-list > > For help: > si-list-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxx with 'help' in the Subject field > > List archives are viewable at: > //www.freelists.org/archives/si-list > or at our remote archives: > http://groups.yahoo.com/group/si-list/messages > Old (prior to June 6, 2001) list archives are viewable at: > http://www.qsl.net/wb6tpu > > ------------------------------------------------------------------ To unsubscribe from si-list: si-list-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxx with 'unsubscribe' in the Subject field or to administer your membership from a web page, go to: //www.freelists.org/webpage/si-list For help: si-list-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxx with 'help' in the Subject field List archives are viewable at: //www.freelists.org/archives/si-list or at our remote archives: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/si-list/messages Old (prior to June 6, 2001) list archives are viewable at: http://www.qsl.net/wb6tpu