[SI-LIST] Re: PRBS Pattern Vs BER

  • From: "Carrier, Patrick" <Patrick_Carrier@xxxxxxxxxx>
  • To: shankar san <shankar.electronics@xxxxxxxxx>
  • Date: Tue, 18 Feb 2014 06:21:22 +0000

Hi S Shankar—
I would suggest you contact your local Mentor customer support representative 
who can help you work through the process.
Thanks.
--Pat


From: shankar san [mailto:shankar.electronics@xxxxxxxxx] 
Sent: Monday, February 17, 2014 11:46 PM
To: Carrier, Patrick
Cc: si-list@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
Subject: Re: [SI-LIST] PRBS Pattern Vs BER

Hi Patrick,
Thanks for the valuable inputs.
I have few more doubts as, i am using Hyperlynx 8.2.1, as you suggested i can 
only select PRBS pattern or the 8B/10B pattern in the Hyperlynx.
So could you clarify me that, do i have to simulate the net only with 8B/10B or 
how should i include the 8B/10B coding in the simulation?
Thank You,
S Shankar

On Tue, Feb 18, 2014 at 10:41 AM, Carrier, Patrick <Patrick_Carrier@xxxxxxxxxx> 
wrote:
Hi S Shankar--
If you want to predict an accurate BER at these levels it is recommended that 
you simulate using the worst-case bit stream specific to a channel.  That bit 
sequence will vary based on the characteristics of the channel, and of course 
should include the appropriate encoding (like 8b10b).

If you are interested in learning more, check out the following IBIS Summit 
presentation from Arpad Muranyi and Vladimir Dmitriev-Zdorov from Mentor 
Graphics:
http://www.eda.org/ibis/summits/jun10/muranyi2.pdf

--Pat

-----Original Message-----
From: si-list-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:si-list-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On 
Behalf Of shankar san
Sent: Monday, February 17, 2014 10:28 PM
To: si-list@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
Subject: [SI-LIST] PRBS Pattern Vs BER

Hi,
Could some one guide me what should be the PRBS pattern for achieving BER <
1e-16 ?

Also how to calculate the required no. of bits for the PRBS pattern as per the 
require BER?

Thank You

S Shankar

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