Steve Rogers wrote: > 2. You may find that the 50ppm includes everthing! My opinion: the 50 ppm requirement in your design includes everything, but the 50 ppm spec on the oscillator you want to buy, may not. In my experience, an oscillator's spec usually does not include everything. If you wait long enough, the aging part is technically not bounded and eventually would exceed a single spec limit. Maybe for really loose tolerance devices (100 ppm or more) it doesn't matter because the aging part is insignificant by comparison for reasonable lifetimes, so a manufacturer could claim that the spec is all-inclusive over some lifetime. But for devices with somewhat tighter specs, I think they are usually listed separately. By the way, aging generally causes the frequency to decrease over time, as if a small amount of material (a few molecules per year) is being added to the crystal surfaces over time. The important thing is to understand that all three of the processes Steve listed, affect your oscillator's frequency. If you look at just the initial tolerance spec and ignore the rest, you aren't going to get what you think you're getting. When in doubt, ask the oscillator manufacturer. A fourth variation, not often listed, is mechanical shock. Dropping or otherwise shocking a crystal knocks molecules loose and thereby changes the frequency, so don't handle them unusually roughly. I concur with the other replies that a tolerance spec means "+/-" because what you want to know is how far your frequency is from what it's supposed to be, the value stamped on the case. Regards, Andy ------------------------------------------------------------------ To unsubscribe from si-list: si-list-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxx with 'unsubscribe' in the Subject field or to administer your membership from a web page, go to: //www.freelists.org/webpage/si-list For help: si-list-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxx with 'help' in the Subject field List technical documents are available at: http://www.si-list.org List archives are viewable at: //www.freelists.org/archives/si-list or at our remote archives: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/si-list/messages Old (prior to June 6, 2001) list archives are viewable at: http://www.qsl.net/wb6tpu