If you're referring to the pi filters use on video cards for PCs... I think this is a throw back from old emissions problems. The pi-filter was used (originally) to reduce the high frequency components from early interface ICs and poor montor cable design. (Hence also the addition of a ferrite on the cable shield). Perhaps someone from the PC industry can comment on the=20 "state of the art" of video card design. Best Regards Charles Grasso Senior Compliance Engineer Echostar Communications Corp. Tel: 303-706-5467 Fax: 303-799-6222 Cell: 303-204-2974 Pager/Short Message: 3032042974@xxxxxxxx Email: charles.grasso@xxxxxxxxxxxx; Email Alternate: chasgrasso@xxxxxxxx -----Original Message----- From: si-list-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:si-list-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of Andrew Ingraham Sent: Tuesday, March 28, 2006 9:28 AM To: SI-List Subject: [SI-LIST] Re: PI filter > Does anyone know why do we use PI filter for RGB and TV signal. > In my opinion, the front capacitor(which the signal arrive first) is not > very necessary. I'm guessing you're confused because you think the filter is being driven by a voltage source, and wondering, why does a Pi filter even exist? Passive filter characteristics depend on their source and load impedances. Passive filters are almost never driven by an ideal voltage source (zero Thevenin equivalent resistance). There is always some source resistance, which is an essential part of how the filter works. For video circuits it is often 75 ohms, and the load impedance on the output side may also be 75 ohms. A properly designed passive filter takes all elements into consideration (source resistance, load resistance, and all reactive elements) to give the desired response. Change any of these, and the filter's response changes. Without any source resistance, the filter's transfer function loses one of its poles. If you wanted (say) a 3-pole Bessel filter and you took a Pi filter designed for 75 ohms and drove it with a 0 ohms source, it won't have that Bessel shape anymore. In that specific case, the first capacitor would be ineffective. But nobody would choose a Pi filter driven by an ideal voltage source. Regards, Andy ------------------------------------------------------------------ To unsubscribe from si-list: si-list-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxx with 'unsubscribe' in the Subject field or to administer your membership from a web page, go to: //www.freelists.org/webpage/si-list For help: si-list-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxx with 'help' in the Subject field List FAQ wiki page is located at: http://si-list.org/wiki/wiki.pl?Si-List_FAQ List technical documents are available at: http://www.si-list.org List archives are viewable at: =20 //www.freelists.org/archives/si-list or at our remote archives: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/si-list/messages Old (prior to June 6, 2001) list archives are viewable at: http://www.qsl.net/wb6tpu =20 ------------------------------------------------------------------ To unsubscribe from si-list: si-list-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxx with 'unsubscribe' in the Subject field or to administer your membership from a web page, go to: //www.freelists.org/webpage/si-list For help: si-list-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxx with 'help' in the Subject field List FAQ wiki page is located at: http://si-list.org/wiki/wiki.pl?Si-List_FAQ List technical documents are available at: http://www.si-list.org List archives are viewable at: //www.freelists.org/archives/si-list or at our remote archives: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/si-list/messages Old (prior to June 6, 2001) list archives are viewable at: http://www.qsl.net/wb6tpu