[SI-LIST] Re: PDN related

  • From: steve weir <weirsi@xxxxxxxxxx>
  • To: Scooby Doo <si.scooby@xxxxxxxxx>
  • Date: Mon, 15 Mar 2010 11:09:40 -0700

And yet there are any number of boards and systems that have been built 
using mostly one capacitor value such as 0.1uF that work fine.

Steve.

Scooby Doo wrote:
> Hi Lynne,
>  
> This is what exactly what is wanted to ask. If the slew rate is 1v/ns, then 
> my 0.1uF capacitor value (designers blindly using value) will not support due 
> to existance inductive nature at that frequency.
>  
>  
> So kindly give some reference / notes so that choosing right value.
>  
>  
>  
>
> --- On Mon, 3/15/10, Lynne D. Green <lgreen22@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote:
>
>
> From: Lynne D. Green <lgreen22@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
> Subject: [SI-LIST] Re: PDN related
> To: "Scooby Doo" <si.scooby@xxxxxxxxx>
> Cc: "SI LIST" <si-list@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
> Date: Monday, March 15, 2010, 5:20 PM
>
>
> Depends on the frequency range where you need PDN clean.
> If it is a wide range (generally true) then one would use
> more than one value of capacitor.  Remember, capacitor
> impedance increases at high frequency due to inductive
> package effects.
>
> Lynne
>
>
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> Scooby Doo wrote:
>   
>> Hi SI Experts,
>>   
>>   
>> I have a question reg PDN.
>>   
>> Suppose an FPGA has 100 I/O pins with 10 VCCO/Gnd pairs. So an average of 10 
>> I/O pins for 1 VCCO/Gnd pair. Assume each I/O pin driving 10pf load.
>>   
>> My qn is, to make the clean PDN, is it enough to provide 100pf of capacitor 
>> to each Vcc/Gnd pair?
>>   
>> I am not convinced with blindly provinding 0.1uF cap to Vcco pins.
>>   
>> kindly clarify.
>>   
>> Thanks in advance for your valuable feedback.
>>   
>> Rajesh
>>
>>    
>>     
>
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