Andrew (or anyone really...), How accurate is a Tval estimation from measuring it on a component that is still on the motherboard? Assuming the part is able to do a first incident drive through the thresholds, can we calculate line capacitance then compare to the 10pF test load, make some estimations, then arrive at a reasonable Tval? Thanks, George -----Original Message----- From: Ingraham, Andrew [mailto:Andrew.Ingraham@xxxxxx] Sent: Wednesday, May 29, 2002 8:53 AM To: brahim@xxxxxxxxxxxx Cc: si-list@xxxxxxxxxxxxx Subject: [SI-LIST] Re: PCI Timing Q? > Is Tval(max) measured relative to clk(i) and Tval(min) measured > relative to clk(i+1)? Tval(max) would be used along with Tsu, Tprop(max), and Tskew when checking the transfer of data from clk(i) at the driver to clk(i+1) at the receiver. Tval(min) would be used along with Th, Tprop(min), and Tskew when making sure that the data from clk(i) at the driver doesn't get caught by clk(i) at the receiver. Andy ------------------------------------------------------------------ To unsubscribe from si-list: si-list-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxx with 'unsubscribe' in the Subject field or to administer your membership from a web page, go to: //www.freelists.org/webpage/si-list For help: si-list-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxx with 'help' in the Subject field List archives are viewable at: //www.freelists.org/archives/si-list or at our remote archives: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/si-list/messages Old (prior to June 6, 2001) list archives are viewable at: http://www.qsl.net/wb6tpu ------------------------------------------------------------------ To unsubscribe from si-list: si-list-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxx with 'unsubscribe' in the Subject field or to administer your membership from a web page, go to: //www.freelists.org/webpage/si-list For help: si-list-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxx with 'help' in the Subject field List archives are viewable at: //www.freelists.org/archives/si-list or at our remote archives: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/si-list/messages Old (prior to June 6, 2001) list archives are viewable at: http://www.qsl.net/wb6tpu