[SI-LIST] Re: PCB Reverse Engineering

  • From: steve weir <weirsi@xxxxxxxxxx>
  • To: "Kumaran K" <kumaran56@xxxxxxxxxxx>,<kedar.apte@xxxxxxxxx>, <si-list@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
  • Date: Thu, 18 May 2006 11:03:23 -0700

Kumaran, everyone is free to their interpretation of the facts.  I 
believe mine to be reasoned and not reckless as you cast them.  I 
have offered Kedar every opportunity to explain the seemingly 
inexplicable.  He has returned with evasion.  Interpret it as you will.
Steve.
At 10:39 AM 5/18/2006, Kumaran K wrote:

>Gentlemen, we are in a distinguished discussion forum and not a street melee.
>
>Steve, I think you need some lessons on communication skills. The 
>way you are trying to mud-sling repeatedly at such a reputed 
>organisation as Patni is totally unwarranted. Please keep your 
>personal opinions to yourself.
>
>If you have a burning desire to know the legality behind Kedar's 
>work, request him and try to find out. You have no right to straight 
>away start slandering and accuse such a prestigious company of 
>stealing. Do have any idea of Patni's history and credentials??? 
>This is blantant character assasination (of Kedar) and defamation 
>(of Patni). I wonder whether you could be sued for this!!
>
>As Kedar mentioned, if he was really involved in illegal work, dont 
>you think he would be smart enough to not disclose it in such a 
>public forum???? Come on, give it some thought...
>
>I am also into service business and I can very well understand how 
>such a need for reverse engineering can occur when you are 
>supporting legacy products where documentation is minimal or almost nil.
>
>Really disappointing to see your mails. You are really potraying a 
>very bad image of yourself and your company.
>
>The least you can do is apologize.
>
>Disappointed,
>Kumaran
>
>
>-----Original Message-----
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>[<mailto:si-list-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>mailto:si-list-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] 
>On Behalf Of steve weir
>Sent: Thursday, May 18, 2006 7:06 PM
>To: kedar.apte@xxxxxxxxx; si-list@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
>Cc: patni-usa@xxxxxxxxx
>Subject: [SI-LIST] Re: PCB Reverse Engineering
>
>Kedar, why do you bother with such evasion?
>
>If your motives are innocent, then you can explain your 
>circumstances.  If you are not offended and your motives are innocent
>you favor the request for an explanation.   But, you don't.
>
>Is it the policy of your company to steal the property of others?
>
>Steve.
>
>
>At 06:16 AM 5/18/2006, Kedar P Apte wrote:
>
> >Hi Steve,
> >
> >Hi Steve,
> >
> >I am not at all feeling offended.
> >
> >1. If I was doing this kind of business I wouldn't be asking the
> >Question this much straight.
> >2. I won't mind sharing the design rights with you people if time comes.
> >3. I had posted this question with my real name and company ID I think
> >that is authentic enough to start with.
> >4. I wanted atleast some info about whether this can be done or not.
> >5. But of course I can understand your awareness and so the reply.
> >
> >Regards,
> >Kedar
> >
> >
> >-----Original Message-----
> >From: steve weir [<mailto:weirsi@xxxxxxxxxx>mailto:weirsi@xxxxxxxxxx]
> >Sent: Thursday, May 18, 2006 6:17 PM
> >To: kedar.apte@xxxxxxxxx; si-list@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
> >Subject: Re: [SI-LIST] Re: PCB Reverse Engineering
> >
> >
> >Kedar if you expected the question then:
> >
> >1. You should not be offended that I asked it and 2. If your motives
> >are innocent you should have explained how it is that you have only a
> >board, no documentation or any kind but the rights to the design.
> >
> >Steve.
> >At 05:22 AM 5/18/2006, Kedar P Apte wrote:
> > >Hi Steve,
> > >I was expecting this Question - never mind I am not in that business
> > >- I think this answer is quiet straight forward and simple to
> > >understand.
> > >
> > >
> > >Regards,
> > >Kedar
> > >
> > >-----Original Message-----
> > >From: si-list-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
> > >[<mailto:si-list-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>mailto:si-list-bounce@freel 
> ists.org]On Behalf Of steve weir
> > >Sent: Thursday, May 18, 2006 5:31 PM
> > >To: kedar.apte@xxxxxxxxx; si-list@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
> > >Subject: [SI-LIST] Re: PCB Reverse Engineering
> > >
> > >
> > >Are you asking for help finding tools so you can steal someone else'
> > >design?  Who helps a thief?
> > >
> > >If you think that theft is OK can you provide me with Patni's
> > >corporate bank account numbers and access codes?  I think there are
> > >many people who might like to out-source funding of their 
> accounts payable.
> > >
> > >
> > >Steve.
> > >At 03:33 AM 5/18/2006, Kedar P Apte wrote:
> > > >Hi All Gurus,
> > > >I want some info or guidance about reverse engineering a multi
> > > >Layered
> >PCB.
> > > >
> > > >Can there be any way, method, tool, vendor who can get
> > > >gerbers/netlist
> >out
> > > >of a multilayered PCB.
> > > >
> > > >May be by x-ray method or any other way.
> > > >
> > > >I have a PCB with multiple BGA components and I need to come out
> > > >with
> >it's
> > > >schematic.
> > > >
> > > >I need information about how to do this task.
> > > >
> > > >Can you please provide me the different ways available if any..
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >Regards,
> > > >Kedar
> > > >
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