[SI-LIST] Re: PCB Reverse Engineering

  • From: "Kumaran K" <kumaran56@xxxxxxxxxxx>
  • To: <weirsi@xxxxxxxxxx>, <kedar.apte@xxxxxxxxx>, <si-list@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
  • Date: Thu, 18 May 2006 23:09:37 +0530

Gentlemen, we are in a distinguished discussion forum and not a street
melee.
Steve, I think you need some lessons on communication skills. The way
you are trying to mud-sling repeatedly at such a reputed organisation as
Patni is totally unwarranted. Please keep your personal opinions to
yourself.

If you have a burning desire to know the legality behind Kedar's work,
request him and try to find out. You have no right to straight away
start slandering and accuse such a prestigious company of stealing. Do
have any idea of Patni's history and credentials??? This is blantant
character assasination (of Kedar) and defamation (of Patni). I wonder
whether you could be sued for this!!

As Kedar mentioned, if he was really involved in illegal work, dont you
think he would be smart enough to not disclose it in such a public
forum???? Come on, give it some thought...

I am also into service business and I can very well understand how such
a need for reverse engineering can occur when you are supporting legacy
products where documentation is minimal or almost nil.

Really disappointing to see your mails. You are really potraying a very
bad image of yourself and your company.

The least you can do is apologize.

Disappointed,
Kumaran
 

-----Original Message-----
From: si-list-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:si-list-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx]
On Behalf Of steve weir
Sent: Thursday, May 18, 2006 7:06 PM
To: kedar.apte@xxxxxxxxx; si-list@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
Cc: patni-usa@xxxxxxxxx
Subject: [SI-LIST] Re: PCB Reverse Engineering

Kedar, why do you bother with such evasion?

If your motives are innocent, then you can explain your circumstances.
If you are not offended and your motives are innocent
you favor the request for an explanation.   But, you don't.

Is it the policy of your company to steal the property of others?

Steve.


At 06:16 AM 5/18/2006, Kedar P Apte wrote:

>Hi Steve,
>
>Hi Steve,
>
>I am not at all feeling offended.
>
>1. If I was doing this kind of business I wouldn't be asking the
>Question this much straight.
>2. I won't mind sharing the design rights with you people if time
comes.
>3. I had posted this question with my real name and company ID I think
>that is authentic enough to start with.
>4. I wanted atleast some info about whether this can be done or not.
>5. But of course I can understand your awareness and so the reply.
>
>Regards,
>Kedar
>
>
>-----Original Message-----
>From: steve weir [mailto:weirsi@xxxxxxxxxx]
>Sent: Thursday, May 18, 2006 6:17 PM
>To: kedar.apte@xxxxxxxxx; si-list@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
>Subject: Re: [SI-LIST] Re: PCB Reverse Engineering
>
>
>Kedar if you expected the question then:
>
>1. You should not be offended that I asked it and 2. If your motives
>are innocent you should have explained how it is that you have only a
>board, no documentation or any kind but the rights to the design.
>
>Steve.
>At 05:22 AM 5/18/2006, Kedar P Apte wrote:
> >Hi Steve,
> >I was expecting this Question - never mind I am not in that business
> >- I think this answer is quiet straight forward and simple to
> >understand.
> >
> >
> >Regards,
> >Kedar
> >
> >-----Original Message-----
> >From: si-list-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
> >[mailto:si-list-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx]On Behalf Of steve weir
> >Sent: Thursday, May 18, 2006 5:31 PM
> >To: kedar.apte@xxxxxxxxx; si-list@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
> >Subject: [SI-LIST] Re: PCB Reverse Engineering
> >
> >
> >Are you asking for help finding tools so you can steal someone else'
> >design?  Who helps a thief?
> >
> >If you think that theft is OK can you provide me with Patni's
> >corporate bank account numbers and access codes?  I think there are
> >many people who might like to out-source funding of their accounts
payable.
> >
> >
> >Steve.
> >At 03:33 AM 5/18/2006, Kedar P Apte wrote:
> > >Hi All Gurus,
> > >I want some info or guidance about reverse engineering a multi
> > >Layered
>PCB.
> > >
> > >Can there be any way, method, tool, vendor who can get
> > >gerbers/netlist
>out
> > >of a multilayered PCB.
> > >
> > >May be by x-ray method or any other way.
> > >
> > >I have a PCB with multiple BGA components and I need to come out
> > >with
>it's
> > >schematic.
> > >
> > >I need information about how to do this task.
> > >
> > >Can you please provide me the different ways available if any..
> > >
> > >
> > >Regards,
> > >Kedar
> > >
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