Clayton, Can you describe what the board is supposed to do? What sort of technology is used, what frequencies? Is it analog or digital, etc... ======================= Mikhail Matusov Hardware Design Engineer Square Peg Communications Tel.: +1 (613) 271-0044 ext.231 Fax: +1 (613) 271-3007 http://www.squarepeg.ca ----- Original Message ----- From: "Clayton Wrobel" <claywrobel@xxxxxxxxx> To: <si-list@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> Sent: Wednesday, January 11, 2006 8:31 AM Subject: [SI-LIST] PCB Impedance Failure > Hello all, > > I a have been watching this list for some time. I am not a SI > engineer, but I am the divisions PCB expert. > > A board we just had fabricated failed the impedance test coupon. 59 > ohm vs 50+/- 10%. They could not measure the diffferential pairs > because of an error on the coupon, but calculated 86 ohm impedance vs > 100 +/- 10% > > We have no SI simulation tools in house, something I am working to fix, > but I have been asked to characterize the risk in using these boards. > > My answer: I don't know... I have no idea what our noise margins are. > I sound like an idiot, but at least an honest one. > > Any ideas, comments, etc? > > Clayton Wrobel > Electrical Engineer, IPC CID > ------------------------------------------------------------------ To unsubscribe from si-list: si-list-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxx with 'unsubscribe' in the Subject field or to administer your membership from a web page, go to: //www.freelists.org/webpage/si-list For help: si-list-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxx with 'help' in the Subject field List FAQ wiki page is located at: http://si-list.org/wiki/wiki.pl?Si-List_FAQ List technical documents are available at: http://www.si-list.org List archives are viewable at: //www.freelists.org/archives/si-list or at our remote archives: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/si-list/messages Old (prior to June 6, 2001) list archives are viewable at: http://www.qsl.net/wb6tpu