There is a total confusion here. The characteristic impedance of a transmission line is totally different from the characteristic impedance of a wave in a medium. It's not entirely an accident that the units of V/I and E/H are the same, i.e., ohms, but the situation is completely different: the transmission line parameter applies to the voltage between the metal conductors for signal and return and the current on them; the wave is described the electric and magnetic fields E and H. > -----Original Message----- > From: Ahmed El-Sanhoury [mailto:rd-ahsanh@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx] > Sent: 15 September 2004 09:35 > To: si-list@xxxxxxxxxxxxx; si_monkey2@xxxxxxxxx > Subject: [SI-LIST] Re: Open Termination > > > si_monkey2 > > I'm afraid that there is misunderstanding point, so i will try to = > declare it: > > 1- When saying "open termination offers infinite impedance" > means Load = > Impedance ZL=3D infinite impedance.=20 > 2- According to that the input impedance of transmission line > Zin equals = > directly the characteristic impedance Zo. > 3- If the transmission line media is air, the Zo =3D 120pi > =3D 120x3.14 = > =3D 377ohm. > 4- so in this case Zin equals also 377 ohm. > > According the above i can modify your statement "Open end line is = > exposed to air has about 377 ohms" > to " Open end line which go through the air has about 377 ohm". > > Thanks > Senior Eng A.Sanhoury > IEP R&D Bahgat Group > www.bahgat.com > > ---------- > > From: > si-list-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx[SMTP:si-list-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] = > on behalf of Sitar Moniker[SMTP:si_monkey2@xxxxxxxxx] > > Reply To: si_monkey2@xxxxxxxxx > > Sent: Wednesday, September 15, 2004 12:48 AM > > To: si-list@xxxxxxxxxxxxx > > Subject: [SI-LIST] Open Termination > >=20 > > In SI and HSDD books, they assume that open termination offers = > infinite impedance. 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