[SI-LIST] Re: [OFF-TOPIC] Signal Integrity Simplified book
- From: "Ingo Kupper" <ingo.kupper@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
- To: <CurtM@xxxxxxxxxxx>, <Ken.Cantrell@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>, <buchs.kevin@xxxxxxxx>, <si-list@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
- Date: Mon, 13 Feb 2006 13:50:22 -0800
All,
I bought a book like that through ebay - or Amazon - I forgot. It was
stated, that this book is used. Since I needed this book for a class at
San Jose State - I didn't mind.
When I received the book, it came from Taiwan - though the seller was
suppose to be from San Diego. The book was exactly the same book you buy
here local. It was is new condition, quality paper and pictures - like
the one you buy here local. The only thing was a little print (which
actually was covered by a sticky sticker: "For sale in the People's
Republic of China only!"
I think, since this book was declared as 'used' - though it wasn't; it
passed customs.
Bottom line: If you want to save money and might (not in my specific
case) get a 'surprise' you go this way. If you want to get, what you
really expect - buy local and pay the price.
My 2 cents.
Ingo
>>IK:-----Original Message-----
>>IK:From: si-list-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx=20
>>IK:[mailto:si-list-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of Curt McNamara
>>IK:Sent: Monday, 13 February, 2006 13:35
>>IK:To: Ken.Cantrell@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx; buchs.kevin@xxxxxxxx;=20
>>IK:si-list@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
>>IK:Subject: [SI-LIST] Re: [OFF-TOPIC] Signal Integrity Simplified book
>>IK:
>>IK:You may find inexpensive copies of books on Amazon or=20
>>IK:other sources that are printed using lower quality paper=20
>>IK:and bindings. These are typically produced for sale in the=20
>>IK:developing nations at a lower price. The books will be=20
>>IK:marked "For sale in India etc. only". If you buy such a=20
>>IK:book (as I did once) without realizing it you should=20
>>IK:notify the listing service and they will remove the seller=20
>>IK:from their lists since this sale was not legal.
>>IK:
>>IK: Curt
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>>IK:
>>IK:-----Original Message-----
>>IK:From: si-list-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx=20
>>IK:[mailto:si-list-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx]
>>IK:On Behalf Of Ken Cantrell
>>IK:Sent: Monday, February 13, 2006 11:43 AM
>>IK:To: buchs.kevin@xxxxxxxx; si-list@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
>>IK:Subject: [SI-LIST] Re: [OFF-TOPIC] Signal Integrity Simplified book
>>IK:
>>IK:
>>IK:I have a first print book. The graphs and pictures are=20
>>IK:not in color.
>>IK:This is no way detracts from the visualization and=20
>>IK:understanding of the concepts discussed and illustrated, I=20
>>IK:might add. Although I certainly agree that color would be=20
>>IK:nice/preferable in any text.
>>IK:
>>IK:-----Original Message-----
>>IK:From: si-list-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
>>IK:[mailto:si-list-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx]On Behalf Of Buchs, Kevin J.
>>IK:Sent: Monday, February 13, 2006 10:13 AM
>>IK:To: si-list@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
>>IK:Subject: [SI-LIST] Re: [OFF-TOPIC] Signal Integrity Simplified book
>>IK:
>>IK:
>>IK:It appears as if the original was in color. Check out the=20
>>IK:first chapter of the PDF version from Eric's website:
>>IK: http://www.bethesignal.com/Login.asp?Type=3D3DArticle&~=3D3D
>>IK:
>>IK:Kevin Buchs Mayo Clinic 200 1st St. SW Rochester, MN 55901
>>IK:buchs.kevin@xxxxxxxx 507-538-5459 http://www.mayo.edu/sppdg
>>IK:
>>IK:
>>IK:
>>IK:> -----Original Message-----
>>IK:> From: Fasig, Jonathan L. [mailto:fasig.jonathan@xxxxxxxx]
>>IK:> Sent: Monday, February 13, 2006 9:48 AM
>>IK:> To: weirsi@xxxxxxxxxx; julian.ferry@xxxxxxxxxx;=20
>>IK:> rpimenta@xxxxxxxxxx;=3D20 si-list@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
>>IK:> Subject: [SI-LIST] Re: [OFF-TOPIC] Signal Integrity=20
>>IK:Simplified book
>>IK:>
>>IK:>
>>IK:> Nope, apparently they are all like that. My copy came from=20
>>IK:> "Pearson=3D20 Higher Education * Prentice Hall Direct" (or so the =
>>IK:> invoice claims) and it's black & white only, as reported=20
>>IK:below. What=20
>>IK:> do you want for $85.71? ;-)
>>IK:>
>>IK:> To be fair, it appears that most of the recent pubs are=20
>>IK:B&W-only=3D20=20
>>IK:> including works by Johnson, Granberg, Young, Hall,=20
>>IK:Thierauf, Martens,=20
>>IK:> and Wartenberg, which spans Prentice Hall, Wiley, McGraw=20
>>IK:Hill, Kluwer,=20
>>IK:> and Artech House.
>>IK:> Lee Ritchey's "Right The First Time" is the only=20
>>IK:(recent) text with=20
>>IK:> any color (that I know of).
>>IK:>
>>IK:> jf
>>IK:>
>>IK:>
>>IK:> -----Original Message-----
>>IK:> From: steve weir [mailto:weirsi@xxxxxxxxxx]
>>IK:> Sent: Saturday, February 11, 2006 1:23 AM
>>IK:> To: julian.ferry@xxxxxxxxxx; 'rpimenta@xxxxxxxxxx';=3D20=20
>>IK:> si-list@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
>>IK:> Subject: [SI-LIST] Re: [OFF-TOPIC] Signal Integrity=20
>>IK:Simplified book
>>IK:>
>>IK:>
>>IK:> Julian, this sounds like counterfeit goods.
>>IK:>
>>IK:> Best Regards,
>>IK:>
>>IK:>
>>IK:> Steve
>>IK:> At 10:10 AM 2/10/2006 -0500, Julian Ferry wrote:
>>IK:> >Rui:
>>IK:> >I suggest you send an email directly to the author,=20
>>IK:Eric Bogatin.
>>IK:> >
>>IK:> >I am sure he would like to know if there are quality control
>>IK:> issues (or
>>IK:> >worse) with his book.
>>IK:> >
>>IK:> >
>>IK:> >I found this email address at his web site: =20
>>IK:info@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
>>IK:> >
>>IK:> >
>>IK:> > http://www.bethesignal.com/
>>IK:> >
>>IK:> >
>>IK:> >
>>IK:> >Julian Ferry
>>IK:> >High Speed Engineering Manager
>>IK:> >Samtec, Inc
>>IK:> >Mechanicsburg, PA
>>IK:> >
>>IK:> >
>>IK:> >
>>IK:> >
>>IK:> >-----Original Message-----
>>IK:> >From: si-list-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx=3D20=20
>>IK:> >[mailto:si-list-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of Rui Pimenta
>>IK:> >Sent: Friday, February 10, 2006 5:00 AM
>>IK:> >To: si-list@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
>>IK:> >Subject: [SI-LIST] [OFF-TOPIC] Signal Integrity Simplified book
>>IK:> >
>>IK:> >Dear all,
>>IK:> >
>>IK:> >I've bought "Signal Integrity Simplified" hard cover=20
>>IK:book on the=20
>>IK:> >=3D3D=3D20 internet (=3D3DA356 ~ $95) and I was a bit=20
>>IK:disappointed with the
>>IK:> quality of
>>IK:> >the =3D3D print,
>>IK:> >specially the figures. All figures come in black and white,
>>IK:> but they =3D3D
>>IK:> >clearly
>>IK:> >look as if they were copied from color ones.=3D3D20
>>IK:> >
>>IK:> >Should it be like this? Because I think I've seen this book
>>IK:> before and
>>IK:> >=3D3D the figures were color ones, and the paper quality=20
>>IK:was much=3D20=20
>>IK:> >better.=3D3D20
>>IK:> >
>>IK:> >Sorry for the off-topic subject but I just would like=20
>>IK:to know if I =3D
>>IK:=3D3D=3D20
>>IK:> >should complain or not.
>>IK:> >
>>IK:> >Thanks in advance,
>>IK:> >Rui Pimenta
>>IK:> >
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