Clearly, if the trace is very short, no termination is required. If th= e trace is very long, a termination is probably required. So where is the p= oint at which we crossover from no termination being required to where a te= rmination is required? That point is not a precise point. We all may make s= lightly different judgments about this, depending on our preferences and th= e characteristics (and sensitivities) of our circuits. However, that point = is generally around the so-called critical length. Shorter than that we *pr= obably* don't need a termination, longer than that we *probably* do need a = termination. For *short* traces, the signal levels (and reflections)= stabilize before we sample the signal level. They stabilize through some c= ombination of *time*,impedance-driven voltage-divider actions, and driver = *swamping*. For*long* traces, we sample the signal levels before the signa= l levels (reflections) stabilize. So, for long traces, we need to control t= hose reflections. For short traces we do not. Doug Brooks http://www.ultracad.com[1] -------- Original Message -------- Subject: [SI-LIST] No need of termination within critical length?? From: "Sonu Kurian N.D" <sonukurian@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx> Date: Wed, September 16, 2009 11:57 pm To: si-list@xxxxxxxxxxxxx Hi All, I am puzzled about why termination is not required if trace length is less than critical length. I read like if a driver encounters a reflected signal when it is rising(driving) , its able to absorb reflection.Is it so? Or is the situation like ..the reflections will be there..but the Setup condition can be met..so we need not worry..?? Can anyone please throw some light on this.. Many thanks, Sonu ------------------------------------------------------------------ To unsubscribe from si-list: si-list-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxx with 'unsubscribe' in the Subject field or to administer your membership from a web page, go to: //www.freelists.org/= webpage/si-list[2] For help: si-list-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxx with 'help' in the Subject field List technical documents are available at: http://www.si-list.net[3] List archives are viewable at: http://www.freelists.= org/archives/si-list[4] or at our remote archives: http://grou= ps.yahoo.com/group/si-list/messages[5] Old (prior to June 6, 2001) list archives are viewable at: http://www.qsl.net/wb6tpu[6] --- Links --- 1 2 3D"//www.freelists.org/webpage/si-list"; 3 3D"http://www.si-list.net"; 4 3D"//www.freelists.org/archives/si-list"; 5 3D"http://groups.yahoo.com/group/si-list/messages"; 6 3D"http://www.qsl.net/wb6tpu"; ------------------------------------------------------------------ To unsubscribe from si-list: si-list-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxx with 'unsubscribe' in the Subject field or to administer your membership from a web page, go to: //www.freelists.org/webpage/si-list For help: si-list-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxx with 'help' in the Subject field List technical documents are available at: http://www.si-list.net List archives are viewable at: //www.freelists.org/archives/si-list or at our remote archives: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/si-list/messages Old (prior to June 6, 2001) list archives are viewable at: http://www.qsl.net/wb6tpu