Joel, There are no cheaper tools, as far as I know. Hyperlynx is a good tools and I think you would need the Gigabit upgrade since, at 1.5Gbauds, the skin effect as well as the dielectric loss are felt. Dan Bostan --- Joel Brown <joel@xxxxxxxxxx> wrote: > I have been looking at Mentor Hyperlinx since we > need some signal > integrity tools for PCB layout. We had a demo from > their local sales > office and it looks pretty good. It is very > expensive and we are a small > company without a lot of cash, but I feel we need > some signal integrity > tools since we are starting to do high speed designs > (DVI, USB 2.0 and > SATA). Also we tend to run signals through a long > path consisting of > multiple boards, connectors and cables. I feel a > tool like this would > help to identify problems that we would otherwise > not recognize until a > marginal product failed in the field. They also have > a GHz which adds a > lot to the price, which Mentor says is required for > designs above 10 > GHz. All of our designs are 1.5 GHz or less > fundamental frequency, so I > am not sure if we need to spend the extra money on > the GHz option. I > would appreciate any feedback from people who have > used Hyperlinx and > suggestions of lower cost alternatives. > > Joel Brown > VP Engineering > Z Microsystems, Inc. > > > > > ------------------------------------------------------------------ > To unsubscribe from si-list: > si-list-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxx with 'unsubscribe' in > the Subject field > > or to administer your membership from a web page, go > to: > //www.freelists.org/webpage/si-list > > For help: > si-list-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxx with 'help' in the > Subject field > > List archives are viewable at: > //www.freelists.org/archives/si-list > or at our remote archives: > http://groups.yahoo.com/group/si-list/messages > Old (prior to June 6, 2001) list archives are > viewable at: > http://www.qsl.net/wb6tpu > > __________________________________ Do you Yahoo!? Yahoo! SiteBuilder - Free, easy-to-use web site design software http://sitebuilder.yahoo.com ------------------------------------------------------------------ To unsubscribe from si-list: si-list-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxx with 'unsubscribe' in the Subject field or to administer your membership from a web page, go to: //www.freelists.org/webpage/si-list For help: si-list-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxx with 'help' in the Subject field List archives are viewable at: //www.freelists.org/archives/si-list or at our remote archives: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/si-list/messages Old (prior to June 6, 2001) list archives are viewable at: http://www.qsl.net/wb6tpu