For Crosstalk using a PRBS pattern on the aggressor will give you ISI only. Using a clock pattern - 1010 on the aggressor and a PRBS pattern on the victim will give you crosstalk only and no ISI. I normally use a 32 bit PRBS pattern on the aggressor and a different PRBS pattern on the vitim. This takes into account both crosstalk and ISI. The PRBS pattern can be identified by taking the settling time / bit time and no of bits ideally is N * 2^N. =20 Nikhil -----Original Message----- From: si-list-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:si-list-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of Peter Johansson Sent: Tuesday, April 24, 2007 9:52 AM To: si-list@xxxxxxxxxxxxx Subject: [SI-LIST] Memory bus datapattern Hi everybody, I have a problem with how to define a reasonable worst case datapattern on a DDR data bus to calculate crosstalk and SSN on the power supply. Should I assume that all 32 bits start in a low/high state and change simultaneously or is there a better choice? I mean, all bits will not change at the same time, which means that I will design towards a worst worst case instead of a real worst case. Have someone made some statistical analysis of how many bits are high/low and how many will change state every cycle? Any ideas? BR Peter PS I'm a Homer fan if someone wonders ------------------------------------------------------------------ To unsubscribe from si-list: si-list-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxx with 'unsubscribe' in the Subject field or to administer your membership from a web page, go to: //www.freelists.org/webpage/si-list For help: si-list-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxx with 'help' in the Subject field List technical documents are available at: http://www.si-list.net List archives are viewable at: =20 //www.freelists.org/archives/si-list or at our remote archives: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/si-list/messages Old (prior to June 6, 2001) list archives are viewable at: http://www.qsl.net/wb6tpu =20 ------------------------------------------------------------------ To unsubscribe from si-list: si-list-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxx with 'unsubscribe' in the Subject field or to administer your membership from a web page, go to: //www.freelists.org/webpage/si-list For help: si-list-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxx with 'help' in the Subject field List technical documents are available at: http://www.si-list.net List archives are viewable at: //www.freelists.org/archives/si-list or at our remote archives: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/si-list/messages Old (prior to June 6, 2001) list archives are viewable at: http://www.qsl.net/wb6tpu