Hi, I have a small discussion topic. Assuming I have: -> model and measurements of a package PDN (flip-chip package that includes some capacitors). -> no model of the IC die PDN and no way to do measurements on a bare die. Objective would be to get an idea on the IC die PDN and check if I have some resonances happening between the package and the die . The only option I see is to do a S11 measurement of the one VDD/GND pin pair (e.g. with a coaxial probe) at the package setting on the VNA measurement signal a DC offset equivalent to the VDD that the IC expects and then somehow de-embed the package PDN. Given all the problems of using S11 for a PDN measurement I assume the results will be bad but would I be able to get an idea of any resonances between the package power plane/capacitors. Any other options? I would also appreciate any references to published previous work on this specific topic. Jose------------------------------------------------------------------ To unsubscribe from si-list: si-list-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxx with 'unsubscribe' in the Subject field or to administer your membership from a web page, go to: //www.freelists.org/webpage/si-list For help: si-list-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxx with 'help' in the Subject field List technical documents are available at: http://www.si-list.net List archives are viewable at: //www.freelists.org/archives/si-list Old (prior to June 6, 2001) list archives are viewable at: http://www.qsl.net/wb6tpu