Steve, Thanks for the frank evaluation. I'll call you soon as I can. Lee > [Original Message] > From: steve weir <weirsp@xxxxxxxxxx> > To: <si-list@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> > Date: 11/6/2003 4:41:37 AM > Subject: [SI-LIST] Re: Lee Ritchey's book > > Rich, > > I just read the book last night. > > The good: > > It lives up to being a handbook offering practical advice. It is directed > at helping the reader succeed. It could save a lot of people who might > otherwise get themselves into deep trouble. > > The book does a nice job with PCB construction details, materials, > practical feature limits, and trade-offs. > > Chapters 32 - 37 on power distribution issues are very good, with strong > analysis, and practical solutions. > > The writing is very accessible probably even to "TTL jockeys" and > "programmers". > > The book is published on heavy coated paper with plentiful, high quality > images and illustrations. > > The bad: > > The book begins by extolling the virtues of analysis over black art > rules. But throughout the book are various rules without the supporting > analysis, or more importantly, in some cases the limitations of a given > rule. Lee does have a reason for each of his rules, but like so many rules > out there, the justifications and limitations are not quantified. > > At 288 *.5" X 11" pages of 10 point type, I've seen meatier > books. Considering the difficulty that many people would have at obtaining > some of the very useful information in it, $125. at the end of the day it > is probably still well worth it for many people working on high speed > boards, and probably a lot of people who don't realize that they are due to > current edge rates. And no, that's not just a "Rambo Rich Body Boy" talking. > > However, in it's current state, I wouldn't put this on a must-have list > like Dr. Johnson's famous "Black Magic" book. > > Some of the information in the power chapters by John Zasio appears to > contradict Lee in earlier chapters. That should be resolved. > > Like any first edition, I think it has a few errors. I'll take what I > think those are up with Lee and see if he can convince me otherwise. > > Overall > > A lot of expertise went into Lee's book, and clearly so did a lot of effort > to make the material not just presentable, but flow. That's not an easy > thing to do. > > My feeling here is that the book in content is a lot like the notes one > would get from a good two or three day seminar, ( and that sort of > privilege tends to cost $1000. or more ), but printed on very nice paper > with very good photographic plates. If I were Lee's editor, I would recommend: > > These are all JMO. > Elimination of generalizations. > > Expansion on certain topics. > > Inclusion of two topics left to "Volume 2" > > Addition of one or two chapters that tie the whole thing together. > > Resolution of controversial or potentially incorrect assertions. > > All JMO. > > Regards, > > "Rambo Rich Body Boy", Steve > > At 06:55 AM 11/6/2003 -0500, Rich Peyton wrote: > >Sounds like a very interesting book! Does anyone, who has it, have any > >comments on how the subjects are presented within the book? > > > >No more comments about the price--please. > > > >Rich > > > >-----Original Message----- > >From: si-list-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:si-list-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On > >Behalf Of steve weir > >Sent: Wednesday, November 05, 2003 7:38 PM > >To: si-list@xxxxxxxxxxxxx > >Subject: [SI-LIST] Lee Ritchey's book > > > > > >To all those curious about Lee's new book: "Right the First Time, A > >Practical Handbook on High Speed PCB and System Design, Volume One" here > >is the table of contents: > > > >Chapter 1: Introduction > >Chapter 2: The Electrical Engineering Problem > >Chapter 3: Mjor Elements in an Electronic System > >Chapter 4: Assumptions Often Made About Electronic Systems > >Chapter 5: How Different from Ideal Real Systems and Their Components > >Are > >Chapter 6: Transmission Lines > >Chapter 7: What's Moving on a Transmission Line > >Chapter 8: Basics of Eletromagnetic Fields > >Chapter 9: Digital vs. RF/Microwve vs. Analog > >Chapter 10: Time and Distance > >Chapter 11: Inductance > >Chapter 12: Capacitance > >Chapter 13: Resistance > >Chapter 14: Fundamentals of Transmission Lines > >Chapter 15: The Concept of Ground and Power Planes > >Chapter 16: Impedance > >Chapter 17: Relfections-What Causes Them, What They Do to a Signal > >Chapter 18: What is Meant by Signal Integrity Engineering > >Chapter 19: When is a Design High Speed > >Chapter 20: Controlling Reflections by Using Terminations > >Chapter 21: Terminator Type, Terminator Placement and Net Sequencing > >Chapter 22: Stubs on Transmission Lines? > >Chapter 23: Properies of Transmission Lines that Affect Impedance > >Chapter 24: Methods for Calculating and Measuring Impedance > >Chapter 25: Right Angle Bends and Vias Potential Sources of Reflections > >and > >Other Problems > >Chapter 26: Types of Drivers or Sources > >Chapter 27: Types of Loads > >Chapter 28: Bus Protocols > >Chapter 29: Crosstalk or Coupling > >Chapter 30: Single Ended Signaling > >Chapter 31: Differential Signaling > >Chapter 32: The Power Subsystem > >Chapter 33: Power Distribution DC Drop > >Chapter 34: Decoupling Capacitors > >Chapter 35: Power Subsystem Inductance > >Chapter 36: Power Dissipation Estimate > >Chapter 37: Example Power Subsystem Design > >Chapter 38: IC Packages-Vcc and Ground Bounce or SSN > >Chapter 39: Noise Margins > >Chapter 40: Design Rule Creation Using Noise Margin Analysis > >Chapter 41: PCB Fabrication Process > >Chapter 42: PCB Materials > >Chapter 43: Crating PCB Stackups > >Chapter 44: Types of Vias > >Chapter 45: PCB Design Process > >Chapter 46: PCB Routing > >Chapter 47: Documentation > >Chapter 48: The Ideal Component Data Sheet > >Glossary > >Appendix 1: Bibliography > >Appendix 2: Anatomy of a Plated Through Hole > >Appendix 3: Selecting PCB Suppliers > >Appendix 4: A Page of Useful Equations > >Appendix 5: Technology Table Explanation > >Appendix 6: Drill Table > >Appendix 7: Conversion Tables > > > >Regards, > > > > > >Steve. > > > > > >------------------------------------------------------------------ > >To unsubscribe from si-list: > >si-list-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxx with 'unsubscribe' in the Subject field > > > >or to administer your membership from a web page, go to: > >//www.freelists.org/webpage/si-list > > > >For help: > >si-list-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxx with 'help' in the Subject field > > > >List archives are viewable at: > > //www.freelists.org/archives/si-list > >or at our remote archives: > > http://groups.yahoo.com/group/si-list/messages > >Old (prior to June 6, 2001) list archives are viewable at: > > http://www.qsl.net/wb6tpu > > > > > >------------------------------------------------------------------ > >To unsubscribe from si-list: > >si-list-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxx with 'unsubscribe' in the Subject field > > > >or to administer your membership from a web page, go to: > >//www.freelists.org/webpage/si-list > > > >For help: > >si-list-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxx with 'help' in the Subject field > > > >List archives are viewable at: > > //www.freelists.org/archives/si-list > >or at our remote archives: > > http://groups.yahoo.com/group/si-list/messages > >Old (prior to June 6, 2001) list archives are viewable at: > > http://www.qsl.net/wb6tpu > > > > > ------------------------------------------------------------------ > To unsubscribe from si-list: > si-list-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxx with 'unsubscribe' in the Subject field > > or to administer your membership from a web page, go to: > //www.freelists.org/webpage/si-list > > For help: > si-list-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxx with 'help' in the Subject field > > List archives are viewable at: > //www.freelists.org/archives/si-list > or at our remote archives: > http://groups.yahoo.com/group/si-list/messages > Old (prior to June 6, 2001) list archives are viewable at: > http://www.qsl.net/wb6tpu > ------------------------------------------------------------------ To unsubscribe from si-list: si-list-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxx with 'unsubscribe' in the Subject field or to administer your membership from a web page, go to: //www.freelists.org/webpage/si-list For help: si-list-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxx with 'help' in the Subject field List archives are viewable at: //www.freelists.org/archives/si-list or at our remote archives: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/si-list/messages Old (prior to June 6, 2001) list archives are viewable at: http://www.qsl.net/wb6tpu