David, As long as you route orthogonally on adjacent signal layers, you should not have a crosstalk problem at 100MHz. Also, make sure you decouple the power and ground planes well so return currents can move from one plane layer to another without major discontinuities. Michael -----Original Message----- From: david.kaushansky@xxxxxxxxxxxx To: si-list@xxxxxxxxxxxxx Sent: 1/7/04 9:40 AM Subject: [SI-LIST] Layer Stackup The design I am working has a fairly dense placement. To try minimize my time in artwork, I would like to add as many routing layers as possible to my layer stackup. I was thinking of using an 18 layer board of Nelco 4000-13, with the following stackup: Signal1 GND Signal2 Signal3 PWR Signal4 Signal5 GND Signal6 Signal7 GND Signal8 Signal9 PWR Signal10 Signal11 GND Signal12 The skinniest dielectric thickness is 4 mils, all signal layers are 0.5 Oz copper and plane layers are 1 Oz copper. The fastest signals are 100MHz, with rise times in 500ps range. My primary concern is the ratio of 6:12 of plane layers to signal layers. I usually try to design for a ratio of about 8:10 or 9:9. I know I will have to be very careful about crosstalk on adjacent layers, but other than that, what else should I be concerned about? Thanks Dave ------------------------------------------------------------------ To unsubscribe from si-list: si-list-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxx with 'unsubscribe' in the Subject field or to administer your membership from a web page, go to: //www.freelists.org/webpage/si-list For help: si-list-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxx with 'help' in the Subject field List technical documents are available at: http://www.si-list.org List archives are viewable at: //www.freelists.org/archives/si-list or at our remote archives: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/si-list/messages Old (prior to June 6, 2001) list archives are viewable at: http://www.qsl.net/wb6tpu ------------------------------------------------------------------ To unsubscribe from si-list: si-list-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxx with 'unsubscribe' in the Subject field or to administer your membership from a web page, go to: //www.freelists.org/webpage/si-list For help: si-list-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxx with 'help' in the Subject field List technical documents are available at: http://www.si-list.org List archives are viewable at: //www.freelists.org/archives/si-list or at our remote archives: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/si-list/messages Old (prior to June 6, 2001) list archives are viewable at: http://www.qsl.net/wb6tpu