Hi, My posting below (from last December) proved quite popular so we polished it up into a white paper: http://cp.literature.agilent.com/litweb/pdf/5990-5266EN.pdf On a related note, the on-demand version of Eric's webinar, which includes info about models of lossy dielectrics that conform to Kramers-Kronig causality, is here: http://www.bethesignal.net/bogatin/nma850-frequencydependent-material-properties-p-430.html The webinar is based on our DesignCon 2010 paper that Eric has posted here: http://www.bethesignal.net/bogatin/bts115-frequency-dependent-material-properties-what-p-432.html hth -- Colin http://signal-integrity.tm.agilent.com PS Thanks to everyone who voted for the above paper at DesignCon. We appreciate being in the hallowed ranks of the DesignCon Paper Awardees http://www.designcon.com/2010/awards/index_papers.asp -----Original Message----- From: si-list-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:si-list-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of WARWICK,COLIN (A-Americas,ex1) Sent: Thursday, December 10, 2009 10:09 PM To: si-list@xxxxxxxxxxxxx Subject: [SI-LIST] Kramers-Kronig in Pictures Hi, Thanks to Eric Bogatin for pointing out a neat proof of the Kramers-Kronig relation in his excellent book review: http://bethesignal.net/blog/?p=63 ...of Hall and Heck's excellent book. After some reading and doodling, a little light bulb lit up, and the result was my latest blog posting "Kramers-Kronig in Pictures" here: http://signal-integrity.tm.agilent.com/2009/kramers-kronig-in-pictures/ The Kramers-Kronig relation is very useful in SI because it enables you to determine time-domain causality (or lack thereof) of a frequency domain model (e.g. s-parameters) before you attempt to move it into the time domain. IMHO, it's worth getting to know. Hth -- Colin Warwick Signal Integrity Product Marketing Manager, Agilent EEsof EDA ------------------------------------------------------------------ To unsubscribe from si-list: si-list-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxx with 'unsubscribe' in the Subject field or to administer your membership from a web page, go to: //www.freelists.org/webpage/si-list For help: si-list-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxx with 'help' in the Subject field List technical documents are available at: http://www.si-list.net List archives are viewable at: //www.freelists.org/archives/si-list Old (prior to June 6, 2001) list archives are viewable at: http://www.qsl.net/wb6tpu