Hi all, I have a driver and receiver talking in an asynchronous fashion at 2.64 Gbps. The driver is sending out random data over 64 inches of PCB trace (5 mil of around 10" LC and 8 mil rest on Backplane). There are a lot of SMAs on the path too for connecting traces to each other. Using TDR I determined each to be around 1.5 pF of discontinuity. My receiver is able to pick this up even though the eye looks completely closed due to excessive ISI (thanks to the equilization circuitry). I am trying to look at the content of the jitter on a WaveCrest jitter analyzer. The WaveCrest keeps on complaining, "Measured DCD+DDJ data does not appear to match user specified pattern. Sample:2.57e-289 Limit: 5.00e-001". When I reduce the trace length by about 20 inches then a distinguished eye can be seen due to lesser losses. This eye I am being able to analyze using the WaveCrest. In past experiences has anyone seen similar behavior. What are the limitations of the Wavecrest? I can measure the random jitter by cutting down the trace and using the Wavecrest but for DJ what should I do? The eye is so closed that I can't even get a meaningful result using the histogram on the Tek 11801 B scope. In short, what is the best way for me to find out the amount of deterministic jitter on my data. Any ideas will be appreciated. Thanks in advance, Khalid ------------------------------------------------------------------ To unsubscribe from si-list: si-list-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxx with 'unsubscribe' in the Subject field or to administer your membership from a web page, go to: //www.freelists.org/webpage/si-list For help: si-list-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxx with 'help' in the Subject field List archives are viewable at: //www.freelists.org/archives/si-list or at our remote archives: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/si-list/messages Old (prior to June 6, 2001) list archives are viewable at: http://www.qsl.net/wb6tpu