[SI-LIST] Re: Impulse vs. Step Response?

  • From: Tracy Barclay <Tracy.Barclay@xxxxxxxxxxxx>
  • To: David Banas <DBanas@xxxxxxxxxx>
  • Date: Fri, 2 Sep 2011 08:00:06 -0700

Hi David,

For your transient analysis, I do not see a transient waveform defined in your 
netlist.  The source Vin only defines a DC voltage and a AC voltage.  I would 
expect to see something like:

Vin in 0 DC 1 AC 1 PWL(0 1 0.05n 1 0.06n 0)

Where the PWL definition defines the desired unit step.

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Tracy Barclay
CAE
Synopsys, Inc.


-----Original Message-----
From: si-list-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:si-list-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On 
Behalf Of David Banas
Sent: Thursday, September 01, 2011 17:40
To: 'si-list@xxxxxxxxxxxxx'
Subject: [SI-LIST] Impulse vs. Step Response?

Hi all,

I've got a puzzler. I'm using this HSpice deck:

.TITLE AC Sweep vs. Transient Correlation

.OPTION
+ POST
+ PROBE
+ RUNLVL = 5

Rin   in   out   r=1K
Cout  out  0     c=1pF
Rout  out  0     10MEG

Vin   in   0     DC 1 AC 1

.IC V(out) = 0

.AC DEC 10 1 1G
.TRAN 0.05n 1u 0 0.05n UIC

.PROBE AC V(in) V(out)
.PROBE TRAN V(in) V(out)

.END

to get both the transfer function, H(w), (.AC command) and the unit step 
response, u(t), (.TRAN command) of a simple RC LPF.

Then, I take the FFT of the .TRAN output and compare it to the .AC output.
And they match!

I wasn't expecting a match, since all my textbooks say there's a `jw' factor 
relating the impulse response and the step response. That is:

    U(w) = H(w)/jw

So, when I compared the 2 spectra, I was expecting the FFT of my .TRAN output 
to have an extra 6dB/octave roll-off, as compared to the .AC output, due to the 
`w' in the denominator, above.

Can anyone shed some light on this?

Thanks,

David Banas
Sr. Member Technical Staff
Altera
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