Bharath, If the 25-mil wide trace carries important signal so that you need to know its impedance, probably you dont want to leave it without a well-designed reference path. Not having a reference plane available, you can still provide a good reference path with a second trace, just like a two-wire transmission line. If the signal is not that important, I would not spend time figuring out its impedance. Regards, Istvan Novak SUN Microsystems Bharathkumar Raju wrote: >Hi, > Have any one come across the situation where you need to simulate, > calculate, measure, the characetristic impedance without a reference plane. > I have a design where I need to decide upon the impedance of an > isoalted trace (no other traces in the neighbourhood) of about 25 mil width > withour any reference plane underneath. > You inputs, sugestions will be of great value. > Bharath > > > ------------------------------------------------------------------ To unsubscribe from si-list: si-list-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxx with 'unsubscribe' in the Subject field or to administer your membership from a web page, go to: //www.freelists.org/webpage/si-list For help: si-list-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxx with 'help' in the Subject field List FAQ wiki page is located at: http://si-list.org/wiki/wiki.pl?Si-List_FAQ List technical documents are available at: http://www.si-list.org List archives are viewable at: //www.freelists.org/archives/si-list or at our remote archives: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/si-list/messages Old (prior to June 6, 2001) list archives are viewable at: http://www.qsl.net/wb6tpu