[SI-LIST] Re: IBIS-AMI Vendor Support Help
- From: "Ken Willis" <kwillis@xxxxxxxxxxx>
- To: "'Marc Humphreys'" <mhumphreys@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>, "'Eric Monteiro'" <Eric.Monteiro@xxxxxxxxxx>, <si-list@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
- Date: Wed, 3 Feb 2010 13:42:55 -0500
Hi Marc,
We are working with a small number of IP suppliers now to assist in AMI
model development and testing. But pretty much every IP supplier we talk to
now either a) has AMI models in development or b) is trying to set up a
process to do so.
There are also a lot of misconceptions about AMI modeling amongst the IP
suppliers, but once they get through that and get underway we have seen some
rapid progress. I am expecting the pool of AMI models to increase
substantially this year, especially since the pull from the systems
companies doing serial link design has consistently been very strong.
Thanks,
Ken Willis
Sigrity, Inc.
860-871-7070
kwillis@xxxxxxxxxxx
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From: si-list-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:si-list-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On
Behalf Of Marc Humphreys
Sent: Wednesday, February 03, 2010 12:03 PM
To: Eric Monteiro; si-list@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
Subject: [SI-LIST] Re: IBIS-AMI Vendor Support Help
Eric,
Its my understanding that Xilinx was the first and currently the only
vendor providing AMI models, but that there are a number of vendors to
announce availability in the not to distant future. Since the AMI model is
wrapped up as a DLL, enabling silicon vendors to model their device
behavior anyway they see fit, the tool vendors and their customers are
dependent on the silicon vendors to jump on the AMI bandwagon. Once the
silicon vendors endorse IBIS-AMI I'm sure the tool vendors will be very
willing to work cooperatively with them to develop and support their AMI
libraries.
If that's not the current state of the market it would be great if the
tools/silicon vendors can list their vendors with available AMI libraries -
or otherwise timetable ;)
Marc
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From: "Eric Monteiro" <Eric.Monteiro@xxxxxxxxxx>
Sent: Wednesday, February 03, 2010 11:01 AM
To: "si-list@xxxxxxxxxxxxx" <si-list@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
Subject: [SI-LIST] IBIS-AMI Vendor Support Help
Hello
I have been looking at channel designers from Mentor, Cadence, SiSoft, and
Sigrity that claim to support AMI models. However, to date I have only seen
Sigrity's channel designer support AMI models "out of the box", and can
generate the BER curves, and statistical eye's.
In the case of Mentor, it looks like they only have special support for the
Xilinx models embedded within the kit (? is this correrct ?). I assume this
means Mentor does not yet have a tool where you can take any vendors AMI
model and just drop into a schematic unless you work with them to develop a
kit similar to Xilinx.
Does anyone know if/how Mentor (Hyperlynx GHz), Cadence (Signal Explorer),
and SiSoft (Quantum Channel Designer) support out of the box AMI models?
Best Regards,
Eric
Gennum Corporation AMS Division
4281 Harvester Road
Burlington, Ontario L7L-5M4
Canada
Phone: 905-632-2999 x 4260
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