Here is another idea which I have used back at Bell Labs years ago: * Use a current limited supply and raise the current to the point where youcan see the hot spot on the board with a camera that can detect surface temperature. I remember back at Bell Labs we had to literally fill the camerawith liquid nitrogen for it to work. Much easier today. * Start with a low current and work up while watching the thermal image. Itworked well for us. Doug On 11/1/11 3:20 PM, Pommerenke, David wrote: Danny, Use magnetic field tracking. A method is to take a signal generator and a power amplifier and apply a low frequency to the PCB. You may need an Ampere or so. The frequencydepends on the bulk capacitance, select the frequency as high as possible, but low enough such that the current flows through the short, not via the large capacitors. Next you need a magnetic field probe useful for that frequency. A Hall effect sensor, a GMR sensor (check NVE's offerings) works pretty well. Attach a narrow band amplifier behind the magnetic field sensor, tuned to the frequency you are using (like 10Hz), then begin searching the board for areas with strong magnetic field. You can try DC current, but the magnetic field of the earth is kind of strong, so you will have to use an on/off method to see changes in teh field between having DC current and having no DC current. David Pommerenke ________________________________ From: si-list-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx[1] on behalf of Danny Damhave Sent: Tue 11/1/2011 1:31 PM To: si-list@xxxxxxxxxxxxx[2]Subject: [SI-LIST] Re: How to solve short circuit issues in high dense pcbs Hi Kiruba If not already done it is also a good idea to check the orientation of all the ICs and that all land patterns for the ICs are correct (right pitch etc.) I have seen both causes shorts. 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