Hi Hung,
HyperLynx has all the required capabilities to quickly and accurately simulate
PCIe Gen3/4, XFI and similar interfaces.
If you want to learn more about that I encourage you to attend one of the PCB
Forums that we are organizing at various locations worldwide. We will
specifically demo how to fully analyze PCIe Gen3/4, USB 3.1 Gen1/2 and a couple
of Ethernet interfaces such as 10GBASE-KR, 100GBASE-KR4 and 100GBASE-KP4. We
will also show how we automated the 3D area generation and 3D EM analysis for
increased accuracy and ease of use. You can find a location close to your home
and register at the link below:
https://www.mentor.com/events/pcb-forum/
I also encourage you to contact your local Application Engineers and/or our
Customer Support Engineers should you have questions about HyperLynx.
Thank you,
Cristian
(613)963-1009
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From: si-list-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:si-list-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On ;
Behalf Of Hung Dang
Sent: Thursday, May 04, 2017 5:01 AM
To: Gert.Havermann@xxxxxxxxxxx; si-list@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
Subject: [SI-LIST] Re: How to begin to study Signal Integrity
Hi Mr Gert,
Thanks for your recommendation! It's very helpful to me.
And I have one more question below:
To verify the channel which have the frequency is larger than 3Ghz (ex.
PCIE3.0/4.0, XFI). What is the accuracy simulation tool? How about Cadence
Sigrity?
Thanks.
On Thu, May 4, 2017 at 3:48 PM, Havermann, Gert <Gert.Havermann@xxxxxxxxxxx>
wrote:
Hi Hung,
it really depends on the area you are woking, the signal speed and the
desired accuracy.
Especially the signal speed/edge rate makes a lot of difference
because at really high digital speeds you need to get firm with
Material Properties, Weave effect, Periodic loading, skin effect and
so on. Thats a really wide field, that is not covered in many books.
But in this area Hyperlynx will not give you the needed accuracy in an
effective process. Up to 3Gbps you can use Hyperlynx for Channel simulations
with good accuracy.
Besides reading Books I recommend a "learning by doing". I think the
best thing to start with is to first verify Measurement and simulation
starting with some easy straight trace (including Coax connectors),
and then go ahead with a Channel that also contains a two PCBs and a
connector. The differences you see in the beginning will lead you to
the topics and Papers that have the desired information. Look at the
data in single ended, differential, time- and frequency domain, all
must be the same in simulation and measurement. After this exercise
you will have a different view on simulation, tools, PCB-materials,
PCB Manufacturing and so on, and you will be more effective in reading books
and papers.
Good luck,
BR
Gert
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On Behalf Of Hung Dang
Sent: Thursday, May 04, 2017 5:30 AM
To: si-list@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
Subject: [SI-LIST] How to begin to study Signal Integrity
Hi Experts,
I have started to study SI for 6 months. Begin with Signal and Power
Integrity-Simplified book and some tech-doc, app note from Hyperlynx.
Currently, my job is extracting S-parameter and verify SerDes by
IBIS-AMI simulation.
Can the experts give me the recommendations or documents to study SI
effectively? I use Hyperlynx tool to do SI simulation.
Thank you so much.
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Hung Dang
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