Dear Experts: If we have a board with a "blackbox" chip,which means we know nothing about the package and the die details, how can we get the anti-resonance frequency and Q between the package and the board ? The measurement we can do is the Z11 looking from the PCB (with the BGA chip mounted or a bare board with decouple capacitor) with a two port VNA test.Is it possible to get the Cpackage and Cdie? Thanks and Regards, LIU Luping ------------------------------------------------------------------ To unsubscribe from si-list: si-list-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxx with 'unsubscribe' in the Subject field or to administer your membership from a web page, go to: //www.freelists.org/webpage/si-list For help: si-list-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxx with 'help' in the Subject field List forum is accessible at: http://tech.groups.yahoo.com/group/si-list List archives are viewable at: //www.freelists.org/archives/si-list Old (prior to June 6, 2001) list archives are viewable at: http://www.qsl.net/wb6tpu