[SI-LIST] Re: HDI and SERDES Channels

  • From: "Loyer, Jeff" <dmarc-noreply@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> (Redacted sender "jwloyer" for DMARC)
  • To: "carson.au@xxxxxxxxx" <carson.au@xxxxxxxxx>, "si-list@xxxxxxxxxxxxx" <si-list@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
  • Date: Thu, 3 Nov 2016 15:16:28 +0000

I think you'd have to void the layers above or below your signal traces.  For 
instance, I can imagine routing the longest lengths on the outermost layers of 
the "core" of a build-up stackup and voiding layers above those traces to allow 
me to widen the traces (they would also be relatively thick, further lowering 
loss).  You'd want a solid plane above them somewhere, but it doesn't have to 
be the adjacent layer.  You'd also have to be careful to specify smooth copper 
on those layers, else the manufacturer will probably undo your great efforts by 
putting rough copper on them.

Jeff


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Subject: [SI-LIST] HDI and SERDES Channels

Hi Experts,
From my understanding, HDI build-up layers require thin prepreg layers, leading 
to very thin trace widths for 100ohm differential impedance control
- and your high speed serial links would suffer great conductor loss.

How do you mitigate against this?

If your design has many build-up layers with thin build-up layers on either 
side of your stripline, then it is impossible to even get something like 100um 
(4mil) trace widths for your 100 ohm differential pairs!!

Regards,
Carson


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