[SI-LIST] Re: Good book about jitter....

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  • Date: Mon, 16 Apr 2007 12:07:58 -0600

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Thank you all. I have received the document.

Nikhil

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From: npatel=20
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To: 'Istvan.Novak@xxxxxxx'; Siddesh.V@xxxxxxxxxxxx
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Ransom Stephens
Subject: RE: [SI-LIST] Re: Good book about jitter....

I was not able to access the download link. Is it possible someone can
E-mail me the cypress jitter doc.=20

Thanks,
Nikhil=20

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Ransom Stephens
Subject: [SI-LIST] Re: Good book about jitter....

Hi Siddesh,

The Cypress book is a good overview of the various aspects of
clock-circuit designs.  I particularly like Figures 5.4 and 5.5,
providing measured jitter data as a function of supply-rail noise
frequency and magnitude.  And I also agree with the text going with the
figures that this kind of data is very rare on data sheets.

Among the many excellent details I would like to caution people about
using Figures 8.8 and 8.18: they appear to sum up admittance magnitudes
instead of complex admittances, thus missing the antiresonance peaks,
which are otherwise correctly described in Figures 8.12 and 8.14.

Regards,
Istvan Novak
SUN Microsystems

Siddesh V wrote:

> Hi Henrik,
>      There is a book out there from C=3D ypress for free. I got the =
link

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>version now, here is the list http://download.cypress.co=3D=20
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>
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>From: "Alfred P. Nev=3D es" <al.neves@xxxxxxxxxxx> Sent by:=20
>si-list-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx: 03/22/2007 01:31PM
>cc: "Ransom Stephens" <ransomstephens@yaho=3D o.com>
>Subject: [SI-LIST] Re: Good book about jitter....
>
>Althou=3D gh I'm certainly no Mike Li(Wavecrest) or Ransom=20
>Stephens(Teraspeed Cons=3D ulting LLC) in the math department..., but I =

>found that all of the compl=3D iance specifications along with general=20
>working knowledge of jitter anal=3D ysis methods was much easier once I =

>reviewed the following in my advance=3D d statistics, Stochastic=20
>processes
>books:
>
>Density functions
>Cu=3D mulative density functions
>PDF's in general - uniform, gaussian, etc.,Expected value and moments=20
>of functions Dual-dirac formulation Defi=3D nition of stochastic =
process,

>examples Adding processes via convolution =3D of pdf's (this is really=20
>important for understanding Dual-Dirac model of=3D RJ-DJ) Q-function =
Some

>transformation stuff of pdf's Autocorrela=3D tion Variance and =
covariance

>Examples of commonly found stochastic pr=3D ocesses (noise) Fourier=20
>transform of autocorrelation to get Power spectr=3D al density=20
>Statistical significance (how many errors you need for BER wo=3D rk on =
a
>channel)
>
>I like Alberto Leon-Garcia's book "Probability a=3D nd Random Processes =

>for Electrical Engineering"  Some of the other =3D books are more =
focused

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>-----Original Message-----
>From: si-list-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:si-list=3D=20
>-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx[3]] On Behalf Of Mark Randol
>Sent: Thursday, M=3D arch 22, 2007 9:06 AM
>To: si-list@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
>Subject: [SI-LIST] Re=3D : Good book about jitter....
>
>
>While not actually a 'book' (228 pa=3D ges), I've found the MJSQ=20
>specification document is a good reference for=3D the definitions of=20
>different jitter types, and a good overview of diffe=3D rent =
measurement=20
>methods.
>
>--
>Mark Randol, RF Evaluation &=3D Application Engineer ON Semiconductor
>
> =20
>
>>-----Original Message-=3D ----
>>From: si-list-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:si-list-[4]=20
>>bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On=3D Behalf Of Henrik Madsen
>>Sent: Thursday, March 22, 2007 4:23 AM
>>   =20
>>
>=3D >To: si-list@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
> =20
>
>>Subject: [SI-LIST] Good book about j=3D itter....
>>=3D3D20
>>Hi
>>=3D3D20
>>I have followed some=3D of the latest discussions about 'jitter'. =
=3D3D20=20
>>I have looked arou=3D nd for a good book about jitter, but I have not=20
>>found any.> Can anybody recommend a good book about 'jitter' and=20
>>relations
>>   =20
>>
>&=3D gt; between
> =20
>
>>different contributions, not too advanced, but on the o=3D ther hand=20
>>descriptive enough to get a good understanding.
>>=3D =3D3D20
>>Originally, I just had to think about 'Deterministic' and 'Ra=3D ndom'
>>jitter.
>>Today, if you look at the specifications for =3D some high-speed=20
>>interfaces, the jitter has been divided int=3D o many contributions =
like

>>*Deterministic jitter (bounded) *=3D * Periodic jitter
>>*** Sinusoidal jitter
>>** Data dependent j=3D itter
>>** Bounded Uncorrelated jitter
>>etc.
>>=3D3D20
>>   =20
>>
>&=3D gt; Regards
> =20
>
>>/Henrik
>>   =20
>>

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