Hi, Weston, Fred: Thanks very much for your answer. Obviously I did not read the IBIS 3.2 spec line by line. :) Checked the particular model I have and it specified static/dynamic overshoot/undershoot value but there is no mention of SI/timing location. Need to ask vendor. Regards Perry "Beal, Weston" wrote: > Perry, > > Since this is a noise issue, the location of measurement should be determined > by Si_locaton, a sub-parameter of [Component]. The value can be "Pin" or > "Die". If this sub-parameter is not specified then the EDA tool will make > some assumption so the answer to your question is specific to the tool that > you use. The tools that I'm familiar with assume "Pin" for most simulations. > > Regards, > Weston > > -----Original Message----- > From: Perry Qu [mailto:perry.qu@xxxxxxxxxxx] > Sent: Monday, September 22, 2003 10:18 AM > To: si-list > Subject: [SI-LIST] [Fwd: [IBIS-Users] static/dynamic > overshoot/undershoot definition] > > Hi, > > Post this to IBIS reflector and did not get any response. Anyone can > help me to clarify this ? > > Thanks > > Perry > > -------- Original Message -------- > Subject: [IBIS-Users] static/dynamic overshoot/undershoot definition > Date: Fri, 19 Sep 2003 09:06:13 -0400 > From: Perry Qu <perry.qu@xxxxxxxxxxx> > Organization: Alcatel Canada > To: IBIS group <ibis-users@xxxxxxx> > > Hi, > > Can someone let me know in IBIS spec, where the static/dynamic > overshoot/undershoot is defined ? At packaging pins or at die ? > > Thanks > > Perry > > -- > Perry Qu > > Design & Qualification | 600 March Road > Alcatel Canada | Ottawa, ON K2K 2E6, Canada > > DID: (613) 7846720 | FAX: (613) 5993642 > > |------------------------------------------------------------------ > |For help or to subscribe/unsubscribe, email majordomo@xxxxxxx > |with just the appropriate command message(s) in the body: > | > | help > | subscribe ibis <optional e-mail address, if different> > | subscribe ibis-users <optional e-mail address, if different> > | unsubscribe ibis <optional e-mail address, if different> > | unsubscribe ibis-users <optional e-mail address, if different> > | > |or email a written request to ibis-request@xxxxxxxx > | > |IBIS reflector archives exist under: > | > | http://www.eda.org/pub/ibis/email_archive/ Recent > | http://www.eda.org/pub/ibis/users_archive/ Recent > | http://www.eda.org/pub/ibis/email/ E-mail since 1993 > ------------------------------------------------------------------ > To unsubscribe from si-list: > si-list-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxx with 'unsubscribe' in the Subject field > > or to administer your membership from a web page, go to: > //www.freelists.org/webpage/si-list > > For help: > si-list-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxx with 'help' in the Subject field > > List archives are viewable at: > //www.freelists.org/archives/si-list > or at our remote archives: > http://groups.yahoo.com/group/si-list/messages > Old (prior to June 6, 2001) list archives are viewable at: > http://www.qsl.net/wb6tpu > -- Perry Qu Design & Qualification | 600 March Road Alcatel Canada | Ottawa, ON K2K 2E6, Canada DID: (613) 7846720 | FAX: (613) 5993642 ------------------------------------------------------------------ To unsubscribe from si-list: si-list-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxx with 'unsubscribe' in the Subject field or to administer your membership from a web page, go to: //www.freelists.org/webpage/si-list For help: si-list-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxx with 'help' in the Subject field List archives are viewable at: //www.freelists.org/archives/si-list or at our remote archives: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/si-list/messages Old (prior to June 6, 2001) list archives are viewable at: http://www.qsl.net/wb6tpu