[SI-LIST] Fw: PCIe 3.0 Clock Jitter Tool

  • From: Joseph.Schachner@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
  • To: "si-list@xxxxxxxxxxxxx" <si-list@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
  • Date: Wed, 11 Feb 2015 09:45:15 -0500

Hi, Nagar.
The previous answer (that you need to be a member of PCI SIG to get the 
Clock tool) is correct. 
By the way, it is not the "PCIE 3.0 Clock Jitter Compliance Measurement 
Tool". What the web site page about testing tools says about it is: 
(FYI Only) PCI Express Clock Phase Jitter Test Software: ClockTool version 
1.3: 
Software package that analyzes captured reference clock data to PCI 
Express 1.1 CEM specification or the PCI Express Base 2.0 specification. 
Software runs on Windows XP*

The text above is from the PCIe 1.1 section.  Below is text from the PCIe 
2.0 section: 
PCI Express Clock Phase Jitter Test Software: ClockTool version 1.3. 
Same as for PCI Express 1.1a

This tool is not referred to in the PCIe Gen3 section of that web page. 

Since you thought this was a "PCIE 3.0 ... Compliance Measurement Tool", I 
just want to add a few words about what PCIe TX compliance testing really 
is.  If you are building a system board (or root complex on something) 
sure, you want to test the clock. However, at PCI compliance workshops we 
stopped running the clock signal through the intel Clock Jitter tool I 
think back at Gen 2, and we certainly don't do it for Gen 3. For Gen2 and 
Gen3 the Test spec mandates that we acquire the clock and the data signal 
simultaneously, and SigTest measures jitter on the data signal relative to 
the simultaneously acquired clock signal. See any company's MOI or the 
test spec itself, you'll see that.

The reason for this change from PCIe 1.1 should be obvious.  Jitter on the 
data and jitter on the clock could both be "in spec" magnitudes,  but if 
the phase of the jitter was not tightly correlated the data relative to 
clock jitter could be higher than either, instead of less (as you would 
expect if they moved together).  It is from experience gained during PCIe 
1.1 testing that the CEM group realized they needed to change the 
methodology to measure data to clock jitter, because that is what matters 
- that is what the receiver may need to deal with. 

I hope this is interesting.  If you are working with PCIe I encourage you 
to join the PCI SIG.   You would get access to all the specs, all the 
approved MOIs,  all the test tools, and you would be able to listen in to 
work group meetings, if you want to.

-- Joseph Schachner 
Senior Software Engineer 
Teledyne LeCroy 


From:        "nagar ashish" <dmarc-noreply@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> (Redacted sender 
"ashish_nagar1@xxxxxxxxx" for DMARC) 
To:        "si-list@xxxxxxxxxxxxx" <si-list@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>, 
Date:        02/10/2015 11:24 PM 
Subject:        [SI-LIST] PCIe 3.0 Clock Jitter Tool 
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I am looking for PCIe 3.0 Clock Jitter Compliance measurement  tool. Read 
about many are using Intel Clock Jitter Tool for the same purpose. Need 
help to find how to procure the tool, tried PCI-SIG, intel, doing google 
also.....but no luck so far.
Anyone used the tool ? How to procure the tool ? and is that the standared 
compliance tool for PCIe 3 Clock Jitter ??
Ashish
 
 
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