Yes, the tools are sort of free if you pirate them. Of course, there is no tech support from Cadence/Mentor, but at 900 cents per hour it's not like you have to offer any to your own customers either. On Wed, 18 Jul 2007 11:05:31 -0700 "Vadim Heyfitch" <heyfitch@xxxxxxxx> writes: > Charging $9/hr., is it really possible to recoup the cost of EDA SI > tools it > takes to do the job? Or, maybe Cadence/Mentor/whoever offer their > tools free > of charge ... sort of a goodwill gesture to help developing > countries, eh? > On the other hand, one could possibly do SI work by the seat of > their pants > - no need for those overpriced, fancy tools. > Vadim > > On 7/18/07, Jory McKinley <jory_mckinley@xxxxxxxxx> wrote: > > > > You are kidding, You know your "team" can make more money by > working at > > McDonald's right? > > > > > > > > > > ----- Original Message ---- > > From: Aditya Chandra <aditya@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx> > > To: ldieguez@xxxxxxxxxx; eric@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx; > si-list@xxxxxxxxxxxxx > > Sent: Tuesday, July 17, 2007 11:24:45 PM > > Subject: [SI-LIST] Free Signal Integrity Analysis: Objective is to > > establish contact > > > > Dear All > > > > Through this email we are pleased to introduce to you all Reliant > > Electronic > > Design Services P Ltd as a leading PCB Design company which offers > design > > solutions to large companies in India, USA and Europe that provide > > electronic products for automotive, telecom, consumer electronics > sectors, > > military, computer hardware and other device applications as well > as > > design > > bureaus. > > > > Established in 2002, we are a team of 30 engineers serving a wide > range of > > customers spread across India, USA and Europe. > > > > For trial purposes and to win your confidence, we can do one PCB > Design + > > High Speed + Signal Integrity for our clients free of charge. > Incase they > > like the design and decide to accept it then then you can pay us > for the > > same else not. Our cost would be about USD 9 per hour inclusive of > high > > end > > tools and admin costs. > > > > We offer options for High Speed Design and Signal Integrity (SI) > Analysis > > as > > per your requirements. Through this analysis we take care of: > > > > A) High Speed > > > > 1. Length Matching > > 2. Delay Matching > > 3. Minimizing Cross Talk > > 4. Impedance Handling > > > > B) Signal Integrity & Impedance control > > > > 1. Reflection Analysis > > 2. Overshoot Analysis > > 3. Coss Talk > > > > At a glance our services can offer you the following advantages > > > > 1. Design Expertise of over 30 people > > 2. High quality designs - Designed for Manufacturing > > 3. CAM checks > > 4. High speed anf signal integrity issues addresses > > 5. Timely delivery > > 6. 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