craig, it might be a pretty big ballpark!! you would have to square the equation to get Er. Vp(m/s)= 3e8(m/s)/sqrt(Er) so Er = (3e8(m/s)/Vp(m/s))^2 regards, Jim -----Original Message----- From: Clewell, Craig [mailto:cclewell@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx] Sent: Friday, July 18, 2003 8:40 AM To: 'kamal_elx@xxxxxxxxxxx' Cc: si-list@xxxxxxxxxxxxx Subject: [SI-LIST] Re: Finding Er (Permitivity) Venu, If the board is a Microstrip you can do a quick measurement of the delay and use this value to calculate the E'r. Use E'r = 3e8(m/s) / vp(m/s) where vp = propagation velocity = inverse of the delay. This should get you in the ballpark Regards, Craig -----Original Message----- From: Kamal EC [mailto:kamal_elx@xxxxxxxxxxx] Sent: Friday, July 18, 2003 7:25 AM To: si-list@xxxxxxxxxxxxx Subject: [SI-LIST] Finding Er (Permitivity) Hello Everybody, I am having a PCB Board for which I want to calculate the Permitivity. I don't know what material is used for the pcb. I don't have any details of the board, except the fabricated board. Is there any method by which i can calculate. Regards, Venu _________________________________________________________________ It's new, it's here! It's full of fun! http://server1.msn.co.in/sp03/messengerpromo/index.asp MSN Messenger V6.0 ------------------------------------------------------------------ To unsubscribe from si-list: si-list-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxx with 'unsubscribe' in the Subject field or to administer your membership from a web page, go to: //www.freelists.org/webpage/si-list For help: si-list-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxx with 'help' in the Subject field List archives are viewable at: //www.freelists.org/archives/si-list or at our remote archives: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/si-list/messages Old (prior to June 6, 2001) list archives are viewable at: http://www.qsl.net/wb6tpu ------------------------------------------------------------------ To unsubscribe from si-list: si-list-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxx with 'unsubscribe' in the Subject field or to administer your membership from a web page, go to: //www.freelists.org/webpage/si-list For help: si-list-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxx with 'help' in the Subject field List archives are viewable at: //www.freelists.org/archives/si-list or at our remote archives: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/si-list/messages Old (prior to June 6, 2001) list archives are viewable at: http://www.qsl.net/wb6tpu ------------------------------------------------------------------ To unsubscribe from si-list: si-list-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxx with 'unsubscribe' in the Subject field or to administer your membership from a web page, go to: //www.freelists.org/webpage/si-list For help: si-list-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxx with 'help' in the Subject field List archives are viewable at: //www.freelists.org/archives/si-list or at our remote archives: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/si-list/messages Old (prior to June 6, 2001) list archives are viewable at: http://www.qsl.net/wb6tpu