________________________________ From: Suresh Subramaniam [mailto:Suresh@xxxxxxxxxxx] Sent: Wednesday, April 05, 2006 10:20 AM To: ray.anderson Subject: FW: [SI-LIST] Re: Theory v. practice, following Re: DesignCon quote Hi Ray, For some reason I was not able to post this message to the SI-List. Please forward it to the group when you have a chance. Thanks Suresh ________________________________ From: Suresh Subramaniam Sent: Monday, April 03, 2006 10:09 AM To: 'Mark.Randol@xxxxxxxxxx'; si-list@xxxxxxxxxxxxx Subject: RE: [SI-LIST] Re: Theory v. practice, following Re: DesignCon quote I did not see anyone mention Occam's razor as a principle to use in simulation and modeling. This has been a long standing principle in the advancement of scientific theories. I extracted this bit from Wikipedia "....when multiple competing theories have equal predictive powers, the principle recommends selecting those that introduce the fewest assumptions and postulate the fewest hypothetical entities. It is in this sense that Occam's Razor is usually understood." For more details see http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Occam's_Razor Thanks Suresh Subramaniam, PhD mailto:suresh@xxxxxxxxxxx Member of Technical Staff CSwitch Corporation 408 986-1964x.205 3101 Jay St. Suite 110 Santa Clara, CA 95054 -----Original Message----- From: si-list-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:si-list-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of Mark Randol Sent: Monday, April 03, 2006 8:55 AM To: si-list@xxxxxxxxxxxxx Subject: [SI-LIST] Re: Theory v. practice, following Re: DesignCon quote I'd expand on that model a little... A good engineer starts with the simplest model to prove the idea, then adds factors that in their judgment says will be a problem. Normally only a couple things at MOST at a time, to reduce the degrees of freedom when it breaks and needs correcting. The best use the 'extra' effects as a feature in the design when the effect is understood well enough to be predictable and manufacturable enough to be repeatable. =20 I don't remember if it's been requoted here or not, but one attributed to Einstein was "The supreme goal of all theory is to make the irreducible basic elements as simple and as few as possible without having to surrender the adequate representation of a single datum of experience." =20 I prefer the pithier if inaccurate translation , "Everything should be made as simple as possible, but no simpler." It's a simpler model... -- Mark Randol, RF Evaluation & Application Engineer ON Semiconductor 901 S. Mopac Expressway Barton Oaks IV, Suite 343 Austin, TX 78746 512-329-5640 (voice), 512-329-8151 (FAX) =20 > -----Original Message----- > From: Ing. Giancarlo Guida [mailto:gianguida@xxxxxxxx]=20 > Sent: Sunday, April 02, 2006 12:59 PM > To: Mark Randol > Cc: si-list@xxxxxxxxxxxxx > Subject: Re: [SI-LIST] Re: Theory v. practice, following Re:=20 > DesignCon quote >=20 > Hi folks, > I'd like to add my two cents to this interesting discussion. > From my point of view the most important quality of a model=20 > ( and therefore simulation) it is not its accuracy... > but its simplicity. ------------------------------------------------------------------ To unsubscribe from si-list: si-list-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxx with 'unsubscribe' in the Subject field or to administer your membership from a web page, go to: //www.freelists.org/webpage/si-list For help: si-list-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxx with 'help' in the Subject field List FAQ wiki page is located at: http://si-list.org/wiki/wiki.pl?Si-List_FAQ List technical documents are available at: http://www.si-list.org List archives are viewable at: //www.freelists.org/archives/si-list or at our remote archives: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/si-list/messages Old (prior to June 6, 2001) list archives are viewable at: http://www.qsl.net/wb6tpu